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45kmh here, number plate, tax and insurance required:okay:
 

carpiste

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Several points have been made since the original post. From what I can see a lot of people are happy going faster, under their own steam, and all ebikes can and do go faster than the 15.5 mph. 15.5 mph is deemed a safe speed and as an ebike rider I feel it is both a safe speed and a reasonable speed to get you from A to B in good time.
As the OP mentions that it could be help for business I have to suggest that this would be of no value to trade. The amount of sales in ebikes, bikes and biking gear is a tiny fraction of the UK economy. It would cost more to change the legislation than the potential gains in trade!
Finally I have witnessed eole, youths mainly, whizzing around on unregulated ebikes and have to say the last thing I want to see are more riding around at high seeds with no idea of how to conduct themselves whilst sharing the road (or some case avements!
On a different note the letter to the right of my "o" has acked u so I`ve lost the will to carry on with this. Suffice to say no change for me thanks ^_^
 

Drago

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Or pedal faster on an ebike, mine regularly exceeds it's motor assist limit on the level and gentle grades as well as down grade.
As does mine, although its a real lump to pedal at those speeds compared to my svelte 'racers'. My average is always significantly higher on my unassisted bikes.
 

Alex321

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You have done sixty on a bike I have 34 and thought if I hit a pot hole I am dead.
I've never hit the 60 Fossyant has, but I quite often get over 40mph on downhills. I think about 45-46 is the max I've hit. But it is quite an unusual ride if my max speed is under 33.

Provided you can see far enough ahead to be able to stop if something comes the other way (or the road is wide enough that doesn't matter), and provided there aren't any potholes you can't avoid, it isn't dangero8us, or too hard to do.
 

Alex321

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Strange when I posted about having the same speed as American bikes everyone was knocking me now everyone is boasting how fast they have been.
The knocking was because you were suggesting changing safety regulations to make trade easier (which it wouldn't really even do).

The thing is, so long as the fall within the regulated limits, e-bikes count as bikes, and can use the shared use paths. Do you really want them powered so they can be doing 20mph+ in those circumstances?

Few of us who have hit 30+ on the road would do that on a shared use path, but not all e-bike riders are experienced enough general cyclists to recognise the risk in that, or adequately judge what speed they are doing. Many would be absolutely fine, of course, but the regulations are intended to reduce the risk from those who aren't .
 

FrothNinja

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If Dorna gets the rights to run international eBike races I suspect that a lot of countries will decide that is proof they are motorbikes & for for licences and registration. If that happens in the UK etc, then the pedal assist only & 15.5mph rules will be redundant & they will probably be allowed to run the same as restricted mopeds etc. 15 is fast enough anyway if you want to do more than a couple of miles distance on pedal assist
 

Drago

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You can already buy 'speed pedelecs' that are legally mopeds, pedal assisted ebikes with similar performance to a slo-ped. Very cheap to insure (30-50 quid a year), free to tax, yet practically no one is buying them, which suggests there is not much of a market for them. They are already a thing, and they ain't selling, so why would the government consider changing the law to accommodate something for which there is little genuine demand?

Conversely, pure electric mopeds are selling like hot cakes.

There will be no upward change to the current 15.5 regs in the UK. As above, there is clearly little demand for it. If anything the clamour from the media and NPCC over hig profile incidents involving illegal ebikes is more likely ro end up getting us regulated and documented rather than have the limit raised. Little point speculating when it ain't gonna happen.

Lots of people wanting this and that, but not one puts their hand in their pocket to buy the ones that are already legally available. Only when people start buying them and prove there is a demand is anything ever likely to change.
 
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The knocking was because you were suggesting changing safety regulations to make trade easier (which it wouldn't really even do).

The thing is, so long as the fall within the regulated limits, e-bikes count as bikes, and can use the shared use paths. Do you really want them powered so they can be doing 20mph+ in those circumstances?

Few of us who have hit 30+ on the road would do that on a shared use path, but not all e-bike riders are experienced enough general cyclists to recognise the risk in that, or adequately judge what speed they are doing. Many would be absolutely fine, of course, but the regulations are intended to reduce the risk from those who aren't .
People are buying kits to buy pass the settings and moving the magnet on the wheel.There are no end of illegal out there .
 
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Biker man

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I've never hit the 60 Fossyant has, but I quite often get over 40mph on downhills. I think about 45-46 is the max I've hit. But it is quite an unusual ride if my max speed is under 33.

Provided you can see far enough ahead to be able to stop if something comes the other way (or the road is wide enough that doesn't matter), and provided there aren't any potholes you can't avoid, it isn't dangero8us, or too hard to do.
Pot holes can be lethal and the faster you go the more difficult to spot and avoid .
 
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