mjr
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No, obviously not.You're saying you see them park up on the pavement, then crossing the road to rejoin the footpath on the other side.
No, obviously not.You're saying you see them park up on the pavement, then crossing the road to rejoin the footpath on the other side.
I'm not sure what your point is/was here, but ...You're saying you see them park up on the pavement,
From what you posted its seems you're doing all the giving and letting the motorists do all the taking....
As road users there should be a bit more give and take ...
Busses can be really infuriating! The Top Gear programme with Richard Hammond was a prime example ! Cutting him up , pulling out in front of him and squeezing him out .From what you posted its seems you're doing all the giving and letting the motorists do all the taking.
As a cyclist I'm as much a vehicle using the road as any other vehicle using the road. If there's a 'faster' vehicle behind me, so be it. If a motorist is going to get antagonised because they're behind a slower vehicle than they need to do some of the 'giving'. They can pass when it's safe to do so and I'll try my best to use my position in the road to enable this. It's not just cyclists that go slower on narrow country lanes, it's tractors and buses too... and as i always said to my dad when he was complaining about being stuck behind some cyclists... why don't you complain when it's a bus or a tractor. Oddly, he never had a viable reply.
I will always complain when stuck behind a tractor if they pass a few openings without pulling in to let traffic past (though to be fair, most of them don't do that).From what you posted its seems you're doing all the giving and letting the motorists do all the taking.
As a cyclist I'm as much a vehicle using the road as any other vehicle using the road. If there's a 'faster' vehicle behind me, so be it. If a motorist is going to get antagonised because they're behind a slower vehicle than they need to do some of the 'giving'. They can pass when it's safe to do so and I'll try my best to use my position in the road to enable this. It's not just cyclists that go slower on narrow country lanes, it's tractors and buses too... and as i always said to my dad when he was complaining about being stuck behind some cyclists... why don't you complain when it's a bus or a tractor. Oddly, he never had a viable reply.
Yes, I agree.From what you posted its seems you're doing all the giving and letting the motorists do all the taking.
As a cyclist I'm as much a vehicle using the road as any other vehicle using the road. If there's a 'faster' vehicle behind me, so be it. If a motorist is going to get antagonised because they're behind a slower vehicle than they need to do some of the 'giving'. They can pass when it's safe to do so and I'll try my best to use my position in the road to enable this. It's not just cyclists that go slower on narrow country lanes, it's tractors and buses too... and as i always said to my dad when he was complaining about being stuck behind some cyclists... why don't you complain when it's a bus or a tractor. Oddly, he never had a viable reply.
I will always complain when stuck behind a tractor if they pass a few openings without pulling in to let traffic past (though to be fair, most of them don't do that).
And until recently, I owned and used a caravan regularly, and with that I would always pull in if I could see a few cars building up behind me.
It is just common courtesy, if you are holding other traffic up, you pull over when there is a reasonable opportunity to let them past.
Hard to argue with any of that.Just as the revised HWC makes clear for cyclists when holding up traffic:
People cycling are asked to be aware of people driving behind them and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when it’s safe to do so.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/the-highway-code-8-changes-you-need-to-know-from-29-january-2022
Well, I don't know which olden days you had.In the old days bus stops had lay-bys in which a bus would stop allowing the free flow of traffic . In those days they also had conductors which meant that the bus could move off once everyone was aboard .
But isn't it still the driver's responsbility to overtake safely?But "allow them to overtake" needs to be clarified - when singling out means that a driver might be tempted to take that as an invitation to overtake without crossing the white line (i.e. where there is oncoming traffic) then facilitating the overtake could well result in a close pass, or worse.
Of course.But isn't it still the driver's responsbility to overtake safely?
Maybe that's how it works for you, but here you have to get on, tell the driver what ticket you want, then wave your card/phone at the reader and wait for the ticket. The pay wave has just replaced dropping coins/notes into a tray with something slower! You can use an app instead, but then you need a different app for each bus company and still have to wait for the driver's machine to scan the QR code, thanks to every single bus company here using mTickets instead of the standard eTickets that you can put into your phone's standard ticket app like most rail companies including Eurostar IIRC.In my day (1970s-80s) we stood at the side of the road and waved for the bus to stop. Sometimes in the city centre the bus had a pull in, but mostly not. I do remember the conductors, but they are now somewhat obsolete. You just get on and wave your card at a reader (or phone). The ire should be reserved for those people who do not get their phone or card ready before boarding!
Yes, I've pointed it out before: this revision has more new and updated rules for cyclists than any other road user. Mostly these are good things, such as bringing the advice on road positioning into line with Bikeability, weakening the advice on clothing and reflecting the long-updated laws on lighting and zebra/parallel crossings.It seems to me many cyclists are focussing on the newly explained HWC requirements on Drivers and ignoring the clear duties the revisions highlight for cyclists, in this case, wrt other road traffic but most particularly wrt pedestrians. [...]
This was not so much quoting a new rule affecting cyclists, but asking where do we stop giving way for pedestrians? I looked and did not find anything explaining pedestrian conduct at light controlled crossings.Rule 82 mentions "pecan?
We have always been allowed to cycle across Toucan (TwoCan) crossings
For ALL other crossings:
Rule 81
Do not ride across equestrian crossings, as they are for horse riders only. Do not ride across a pelican, puffin or zebra crossing. Dismount and wheel your cycle across