New wheel fitted by LBS - now it feels like I'm riding through treacle.

Discussion in 'Bicycle Mechanics and Repairs' started by Welsh wheels, 23 Feb 2018.

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  1. cyberknight

    cyberknight Legendary Member

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    @Fnaar
     
  2. ColinJ

    ColinJ A big clot!

    I was wondering if a moderate unfavourable wind was the problem. Strong winds are pretty obvious, but more subtle ones can still make the going tougher.

    I would have said so too, until I overtightened the QR on my MTB's rear wheel after putting a big chunky knobbly tyre on. I noticed the 'riding through treacle' effect immediately but put it down to the aggressive tread on the tyre. It was only when I put the bike on my stand and tried spinning the back wheel that I realised that something else was to blame. With a lot of effort I could spin the wheel up to speed, but it would only rotate about 1/10th turn once I stopped turning the cranks. After I adjusted the QR properly the problem went away. The tyre actually rolls pretty well!
     
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  3. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    He said the wheel spun freely, which is why I suggested others things.
     
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  4. cyberknight

    cyberknight Legendary Member

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    Anyway the wheel is working , thats the main thing .Enjoy the miles :smile:
     
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  5. I don't see why a tight QR should have any effect on the free running of a wheel if the cones are set correctly, lock nut tightened and correct spacers fitted.
     
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  6. ColinJ

    ColinJ A big clot!

    He did, and that's why I suggested other things too but I thought that somebody else reading my post might be suffering from QR-overtightening-syndrome!
     
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  7. DCBassman

    DCBassman Über Member

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    When I was given my Scott to assess for renovation, the first thing I noticed was poor spinning. It came close to needing two people to undo the QRs. Trust me, it makes a massive difference.
     
  8. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

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  9. chriscross1966

    chriscross1966 Senior Member

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    n+1 solves all problems....
     
  10. ColinJ

    ColinJ A big clot!

    I have my CX bike upside down in the kitchen (so I could fix a front wheel puncture) and I just noticed that the back wheel was not spinning properly. With the QR done up very tight the wheel only freewheels for a couple of revolutions after a good spin of the cranks. I adjusted the QR to a reduced tension and repeated the test ... the wheel then span for about 30 revs before coming to a stop. There is still a bit too much friction there (which I will look into later) but it does show that QR tension CAN affect friction in a hub.
     
  11. Tim Hall

    Tim Hall Guest

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    Crawley
    Rather than a too tight QR, I think it's badly (too tight) adjusted bearings. The compressive forces of a properly tight QR cause the bearings to bind. Same effect but look to your bearings rather than your QR. This assumes you have cup and cone bearings.
     
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  12. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

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    Agreed. Needs slight play when the qr is open so that when compressed they come into correct adjustment.
     
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  13. ColinJ

    ColinJ A big clot!

    Thanks. I will take a good look at the bike in the morning.

    PS When I said the QR was 'very tight', I think it was actually 'tight enough'. When I loosened it to get the wheel spinning better, I'd say that it was then possibly 'not quite tight enough'. I certainly wouldn't be confident that I could stand up for a steep climb and not pull the rear wheel out of the dropouts!
     
    Last edited: 6 Mar 2018
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