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wafflycat

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007fair

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Absinthe Minded said:
This might already have been said but I'm too lazy to read everything.

Cyclists ARE TRAFFIC.

Agreed.. my point originally was that they were designed specifically for cars not bikes. If only bikes were on the road they would in general be redundant But its a mute point I have seen the light and have vowed to be good from now on :smile:
 

jimboalee

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Solihull
I've given this thread a while to expand before posting.

This morning I went through a red light again, like most mornings. 05:25 at the junction of B'ham Rd and Old Budbrooke Rd, NE of Warwick.
Again, there was no one else around, so what the......

Having not recieved a PM from any of you telling me I'm a naughty boy, or a summons from Warwick Constabulary for the last four years, I take it the police, other roadusers and none of you notice me RLJing nearly every morning.

Which is the point made by a few of you. If there is no risk to other traffic ( because there's none there to face risk ) why stop at a red lamp?
 

siadwell

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Location
Surrey
jimboalee said:
If there is no risk to other traffic ( because there's none there to face risk ) why stop at a red lamp?

Glad you asked.

The answer's quite simple. I refer you to The Highway Code Rules for cyclists (59-82):
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You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red. Some junctions have an advanced stop line to enable you to wait and position yourself ahead of other traffic (see Rule 178).
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 36(1)]
And where would we be if we only obeyed those laws we felt like obeying?
 

jimboalee

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Location
Solihull
siadwell said:
Glad you asked.

The answer's quite simple. I refer you to The Highway Code Rules for cyclists (59-82):
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You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red. Some junctions have an advanced stop line to enable you to wait and position yourself ahead of other traffic (see Rule 178).
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 36(1)]
And where would we be if we only obeyed those laws we felt like obeying?

It's a long way from Surrey tomorrow morning for you to stop me.

And what are the police going to say when you phone them later this afternoon saying a cyclist on his own is going to ride across a red traffic signal?
 
jimboalee said:
It's a long way from Surrey tomorrow morning for you to stop me.

And what are the police going to say when you phone them later this afternoon saying a cyclist on his own is going to ride across a red traffic signal?


So it is ok to break the law so long as you don't get caught.....?
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
magnatom said:
So it is ok to break the law so long as you don't get caught.....?
In general, yes. But that's a question better suited to P&L than Commuting, really.
 

jimboalee

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Location
Solihull
magnatom said:
So it is ok to break the law so long as you don't get caught.....?

Ask yourself a question.

How far down the Police's list of serious crimes does "Lone cyclist riding across deserted traffic junction when signal is against him" stand?
 
jimboalee said:
Ask yourself a question.

How far down the Police's list of serious crimes does "Lone cyclist riding across deserted traffic junction when signal is against him" stand?
Doesn't matter. If you kept on ignoring the lowest law down the list, you'd soon graduate to something more serious.
 

garrilla

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Location
Liverpool
jimboalee said:
Ask yourself a question.

How far down the Police's list of serious crimes does "Lone cyclist riding across deserted traffic junction when signal is against him" stand?

I prefer it when you do poetry on this subject.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Absinthe Minded said:
Doesn't matter. If you kept on ignoring the lowest law down the list, you'd soon graduate to something more serious.
Really? I've been copying my CDs to digital formats for personal use/backup, for as long as it's been technically possible to do so. When do I graduate to ABH and extreme pornography?

Also the other day I stopped after the stop line because it gave be a better view of the junction. Please can you let me know how many years I have before I kill someone in a drive-by shooting?
 
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