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super_davo

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Question do you chain waders reuse the Shimano quick link multiple times or go for a reusable one like connex ? . I'm considering going from drip on waxing to immerse wax but may wait until spring time

I've taken to buying ZTTO quick links which are dirt cheap - about a fiver for 6 - and reuse 2-3 times before switching to a new one. Way cheaper than Connex and stops the temptation to eke out a £5 Shimano one longer than you really should.
 
I've not used Connex before but assume the big plus is ease of use? No tools etc?
Yes, quite. The cost works out very similar, as you point out, but with the Connex ones you're not constantly buying new ones, working out when to replace them, and crucially you're not inhibited from just taking the chain off for ease of maintenance (of other bike parts) reasons. Also, yes, it's easier to remove and replace the Connex link than a Shimano link and tools are wholly unnecessary.
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
A quick search shows Connex quick links around £25, Shimano ones £5 so overall about the same for longevity? That is 5 Shimano links for same price.
I have reused Shimano quick links with no issues, I'm not putting out mega watts that's for sure so chances of breaking etc minimal.
I've not used Connex before but assume the big plus is ease of use? No tools etc?

£25?!?!?!

Boy, am I glad I ride 9 speed. I picked up three for a tenner last month:

https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m8b0s111p1579/WIPPERMAN-Connex-Chain-Joining-Link-(8spd-and-9spd)

They're all right you know, those nice folks at Spa.
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
They even charge a 'mere' £21 for the 11 speed ones ... It's certainly true that the price is, to be generous, exorbitant !

I assume they have to pay Wipperman more for 11 speed than 9 speed.

PS drove over "my" bit of the A65 past Ingleton the other day. Didn't disappear into sinkhole, so still OK. Though I was reminded why I usually take the A66 back from Scotland, it's a lot less twisty.
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
Thanks for that - just ordered some myself.

I didn't actually really need them. I'd just bought 3 YBN chains, which come with a quick link that's usable 5 times, they say. But:

1. The Wipperman is a different colour to the gold chain. So way easier to spot.

2. I wanted to try tool-less chain removal. Which I'm getting faster at.

I must admit I was a little nervous when I saw how loose the Connex quicklinks are. But I assume (hope?) that they don't come off accidentally. Certainly there don't seem to be many reports of them coming off. This is a road bike and not subject to much rough stuff. I think if I was a mountain biker, or did anything where the chain could possible go very slack or get contorted, I might prefer the satisfying click of normal quicklinks.
 
I assume (hope?) that they don't come off accidentally.
Mine never have, in about ... something like 30,000km. That's on road, but the movement to undo them is really very specific, isn't it. It's hard to see that happening through the chain bouncing around. One thing worth noting is that the direction really does make a big difference: get it 'upside down' and there is a subtle, but very distinct sound as the link traverses the rear derailleur. My partner did this once and it was tricky to track down. Admittedly, that was initially since it was very subtle indeed when compared to the sound of the chain also going the wrong side of the tab in the rear derailleur ;-)
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
Mine never have, in about ... something like 30,000km. That's on road, but the movement to undo them is really very specific, isn't it. It's hard to see that happening through the chain bouncing around. One thing worth noting is that the direction really does make a big difference: get it 'upside down' and there is a subtle, but very distinct sound as the link traverses the rear derailleur. My partner did this once and it was tricky to track down. Admittedly, that was initially since it was very subtle indeed when compared to the sound of the chain also going the wrong side of the tab in the rear derailleur ;-)

Thanks, that's reassuring. One would assume, given that they are fairly common, that if there was even a small number of accidental disconnects, it would be all over the cycling "community". Yes, the movement is very specific. Also very clever.

But maybe you can understand a little initial unease, if one is used to having to use the special pliers, and the very firm click as traditional quicklinks dis/en-gage, how the apparent looseness of the Wipperman one seems unusual.

As it happens each of the YBN chains come with a "normal" quicklink for free, reusable 5 times. I'll probably keep those in one of my many little ziplok bags, for uses on any oiled chain I might use somewhere else.

I'm keeping a record of when each chain is waxed, and keeping the same quicklink with each chain. So I'll know how many times each quicklink has come on and off, excluding other reasons to "break the chain"

Have you kept any record of how many times each link has been opened and closed? I'm sort of tempted, especially given how cheap the 9 speed ones are, to set some sort of limit, and change them after 20/50/100/whatever changes.
 
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Have you kept any record of how many times each link has been opened and closed? I'm sort of tempted, especially given how cheap the 9 speed ones are, to set some sort of limit, and change them after 20/50/100/whatever changes.
Do you mean the Connex ones? If so, no, I haven't. it's easy to work it out to a rough but useful level though, just by dividing distance by 300km and then doubling that number to allow for non-waxing removals. 300km is low and the doubling is high, so I'm confident that the resulting number would be 'safe'. That said, It's not occurred to me to replace a Connex link as they are under no stress whatsoever when being removed so it's not wearing them out as such. The ones which click will gradually 'click less' on each usage. Do it ten times and they (Shimano ones anyway) are easy to do and undo with just fingers. Given how they work, that is way beyond my appetite for using them! Worn ones which click, or have stopped clicking, very much do come undone in normal use.
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
Do you mean the Connex ones? If so, no, I haven't. it's easy to work it out to a rough but useful level though, just by dividing distance by 300km and then doubling that number to allow for non-waxing removals. 300km is low and the doubling is high, so I'm confident that the resulting number would be 'safe'. That said, It's not occurred to me to replace a Connex link as they are under no stress whatsoever when being removed so it's not wearing them out as such. The ones which click will gradually 'click less' on each usage. Do it ten times and they (Shimano ones anyway) are easy to do and undo with just fingers. Given how they work, that is way beyond my appetite for using them! Worn ones which click, or have stopped clicking, very much do come undone in normal use.

Thanks. So ~>50 times or more? At my age and mileage I'm not going to worry about it. Might still grab a few more next time I'm at Spa though, for any other bike and/or when I drop one in the grass. They're cheap as chips.
 
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