Exactly. My saddlebag fits 2xTubes. 2xPark Levers, Patch kit (non-instant type), Multitool, 3xCO2 and the inflator, plus miscellaneous zip ties, petrol station gloves etc. And it's a small wedge one.
Small pump or CO2 pump?
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smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
Says the man who "can readily patch a tube in 5 minutes, even in the rain". If that includes the time it takes to manually inflate your tyre to operating pressure with a mini-pump, you must be blessed with strong wrists.
If you're intent on turning this into a pissing contest, I have video evidence of a colleague changing a tube in under a minute (albeit starting with the wheel already off the bike). My own PB for a tube swap 'in the field' is under four minutes - timed from slowing down to getting going again (according to Garmin data). Admittedly I don't normally do it in such a rush but on that occasion I was already running late.
Truth is there are pros and cons to both pumps and CO2. I like CO2 because it's easy and quick to use - one 16g cartridge is exactly the right amount to get a road bike tyre to correct pressure in around a second. But on long rides, I will carry a pump and patches as back-up in case I suffer more punctures than I have spare tubes/CO2 cartridges. I don't usually patch tubes at the side of the road unless I've run out of good tubes - just stuff them in my pocket and repair them properly at leisure when I get home.
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I have a Lezyne micro floor drive HVG pump - this is the 'high volume' pump for lower pressures (up to 90psi - they do a HP version which will go up to 160psi). I've never been wooed by CO² - mostly because I know that my pump will never run out no matter how many operator errors or other cyclists in need of some inflation I might encounter but also because I don't see the pump as sufficiently difficult or time-consuming to warrant the alternative ("quick and easy" being the rationale that I mostly hear for using CO²) . Admittedly, if I were to encounter a road-biker with a flatty and no means of inflation, I might not be able to get them up to 120psi, but 90 should get them home. Luckily, I haven't had to use a pump at the roadside for a long time.
I realise that CO² is popular amongst the pu****re-prone as I see lots of discarded cartridges on the roadside.
I realise that CO² is popular amongst the pu****re-prone as I see lots of discarded cartridges on the roadside.
jefmcg
Guru
I don't think most of them are co2 cartridges.
Unless there are tons of cyclists getting flat flat tyres in a tiny scrap of vacant land near me, where kids hangout on Saturday nights.
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I'm talking about roadside miles from anywhere - not the sorts of place that kids hang out, and not looking like they've been thrown from a car
But we ain't talking about a carte-blanche rejection of change or modern technology; just because I don't want to use CO², it doesn't mean that I also reject smart phones and GPS. This is effectively ignoring any valid point made or opinion given against the adoption of CO², and dismissing them all as an irrational response.
First I have never seen a discarded CO2 canister, secondly I apologise for ruining your Sunday with my flippant tongue in cheek post.
You haven't ruined my Sunday, and I apologise for not recognising 'tongue-in-cheek' - sometimes I need it sign-posted with a wink-emoticon
You haven't ruined my Sunday, and I apologise for not recognising 'tongue-in-cheek' - sometimes I need it sign-posted with a wink-emoticon
Nah! that just makes it too easy.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
No, just blessed with a mini floor pump.
Maybe go look at who posted the first "5 minutes" claim before getting all pumped up with such accusations.
Indeed. It just seems rather contrary to claim to use CO2 for speed and then go stripping tubes instead of using faster fixes. If a pump is so slow that it takes 973 strokes to reach 85psi, then get a better pump. Number of strokes to 100psi is sometimes included in more detailed reviews.
FTFY.
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
I thought they were at first, but there are loads and loads discarded on the road outside the student halls, and balloons ! A colleague told me what they were - NOX ! Never heard of it until about 3 years ago.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
Oh dear - the conversation went down hill. Mjr just has 'issues' with my posts recently.
The reason I like folding tyres is they are easy to get on with just your thumbs (and I don't have bionic thumbs) where as wire bead is hard even with levers (as well as weight)
The CO2 cuts down inflation time by minutes. I don't use CO2 when I'm not in a rush, but when you are expected to be somewhere at a specific time, it all helps. That's the reason I started using it. And the 16g containers inflate road tyres and MTB tyres to the correct PSI.
It's just quicker if you are in a rush.
I think mjr enjoys a relaxed way of cycling that some of us may not, nothing wrong with that.
A small track pump like he enjoys would not I feel suit my style, likewise I prefer sporting whilst I think he prefers a Dutch style upright (I could be wrong) a bit rare amongst some on here I would imagine.
The main thing is we all enjoy some kind of cycling.
A small track pump like he enjoys would not I feel suit my style, likewise I prefer sporting whilst I think he prefers a Dutch style upright (I could be wrong) a bit rare amongst some on here I would imagine.
The main thing is we all enjoy some kind of cycling.
