Stick with tubeless?

Pedropete

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Location
West Sussex, UK
Assuming the rims are tubeless compatible too, check that they're taped properly and give tubeless a go. Just use a decent sealant and remember to top it up! How often will depend on which sealant; Stan's is notorious for drying out quickly, Schwalbe Doc Blue is just rebadged Stan's, Finish Line is over priced snake oil and Magic Milk seems to vary by batch.

I've had best results with Orange Seal Endurance, which lasts so long I got a bit slack this year and forgot to check the level in the Spring. Meaning that when I managed to burp my rear tyre on a pothole last week and break the seal, it went down fast and wouldn't re-seal as there was no liquid sealant left in the tyre, because I'm a muppet. Nothing an emergency tube didn't sort, briefly, before the valve stem cracked at the base and I had a sweary three mile trudge to the LBS for a replacement, because the tube was old and buggered and, again, I'm a muppet.

All you'll need to carry in addition to your normal repair kit and spare tubes is a tubeless plug kit and insertion tool (super cheap and tiny) and a tyre boot if you don't already carry one. If the damage is too much for decent sealant to fix there's a good chance it'll need booting before you put a tube in anyway.
 
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MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Been riding tubeless for a month now, and this week I've had two punctures front and rear, both would not seal properly. So still experimenting with this, might not have been enough sealant ( holes were not that big ) or not very good sealant ( bought from Decathlon ). Looks also like I best buy some plugs and tyre boot as well. Have to say if I can sort this out, the tubeless tyres do roll very well, even the gravel type I'm running just now are pretty fast rolling on all surfaces.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Über Member
Location
London
this week I've had two punctures front and rear, both would not seal properly. So still experimenting with this, might not have been enough sealant ( holes were not that big ) or not very good sealant ( bought from Decathlon ). Looks also like I best buy some plugs and tyre boot as well..
I'd buy some inner tubes and fit those instead if I were you.
 

Venod

Eh up
I am always interested in what sealant people use, I have used Stans mostly, I did try some Peaty but found it too bitty, it tended to clog the valve, I am currently trying some Effetto, I will also have to try some Orange Seal Endurance which seems to have a long life, I tend to forget to top up.

Rim tape also is of interest, the first tubeless I fitted I used a 20" tube split lengthwise on non tubeless rims, it worked great, I have since used Stans and the same stuff as Stans but much cheaper on a big roll off eBay, the worst I have used is Gorilla tape, it does the job and seals well, but getting it off the rim is a PITA.
 
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jiberjaber

Über Member
Location
Essex
Give this a read through, seems to be one of the most comprehensive collections of Tubeless info I've come across to date. https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/pages/tech-page

Effetto sealant for me and tyre worms. The times I've had to use an inner tube have all been because I had no sealant left in the tyre - an oversight on my behalf. With the exception of my Brompton, all my bikes are tubeless. Its very enjoyable to run tyres a good 30psi lower than you might be used to over long distances.

Give it a go, expect it to be a bit different to the usual inner tube approach, so don't let any initial learning experiences put you off but if you decide you want to go back to tubes - well no harm in trying tubeless!

One thing I would say - if you don't ride very often then tubeless might not be for you (i.e. you have a bike hanging up for a month or so and then go for a ride...) as it possible would be easy to forget how long it was since last topped up with sealant and any long time not ridden may result in lost air which in the extreme might also result in the tyre becoming unseated and accelerating the sealant drying out. Mine usually deflate to around 30psi and sit there, the rim usually stays on the rim as teh sealant inside does a good job of gluing it there - but that's just my experience.
 

Pedropete

Über Member
Location
West Sussex, UK
I am always interested in what sealant people use, I have used Stans mostly, I did try some Peaty but found it too bitty, it tended to clog the valve, I am currently trying some Effetto, I will also have to try some Orange Seal Endurance which seems to have a long life, I tend to forget to top up.
I think Peaty's is intended more for MTB use, i.e. much higher volume and lower pressure, hence the bigger particles. I did try some Effetto when the LBS had it on offer and found that while it sealed okayish it didn't last long at all, so keep an eye on the level!

Rim tape also is of interest, the first tubeless I fitted I used a 20" tube split lengthwise on non tubeless rims, it worked great, I have since used Stans and the same stuff as Stans but much cheaper on a big roll off eBay, the worst I have used is Gorilla tape, it does the job and seals well, but getting it off the rim is a PITA.
Yep, took me the best part of an afternoon to clean the rims after I used gorilla tape! The ebay Tessa tape option is definitely the most cost effective option.
 

lane

Über Member
Put my tubeless on in Feb I think. Put stans race sealent in because had read it was the best. Then read it drys out more quickly and can't put through the valve. Had a look the other day by breaking the seal - so got to be four months on - and not dried out at all that I could see. Put a bit more in anyway - took about 5 mins. Left the back tyre because seemed like it would also be ok for a while. Can't report on puncture effectiveness as don't seem to have had one but is rated highly - and is expensive.

Tip - when parking bike turn wheel so valve is at top should stop problems with the valve gumming.
 

Justinitus

Someone mention cake??
Location
Wiltshire
Give this a read through, seems to be one of the most comprehensive collections of Tubeless info I've come across to date. https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/pages/tech-page

Effetto sealant for me and tyre worms. The times I've had to use an inner tube have all been because I had no sealant left in the tyre - an oversight on my behalf. With the exception of my Brompton, all my bikes are tubeless. Its very enjoyable to run tyres a good 30psi lower than you might be used to over long distances.

Give it a go, expect it to be a bit different to the usual inner tube approach, so don't let any initial learning experiences put you off but if you decide you want to go back to tubes - well no harm in trying tubeless!

One thing I would say - if you don't ride very often then tubeless might not be for you (i.e. you have a bike hanging up for a month or so and then go for a ride...) as it possible would be easy to forget how long it was since last topped up with sealant and any long time not ridden may result in lost air which in the extreme might also result in the tyre becoming unseated and accelerating the sealant drying out. Mine usually deflate to around 30psi and sit there, the rim usually stays on the rim as teh sealant inside does a good job of gluing it there - but that's just my experience.
I’ve just got my first tubeless bike (Giant Revolt) and I’m running 700x38c Hutchinson Overides. Still experimenting with pressures - currently 60psi rear and 45psi front. What pressures are you running out of interest? (Assuming similar size tyre!)
 

bladesman73

Über Member
Whats is the point of tubeless on race bikes unless you are racing? I dont care about a bit less rolling resistance and that I can ride using lower tyre pressures I do care about messing up my wheels with sealant that splurges all over the place on occasion. Funny thing is the ones I know who are tubeless always carry a tube with them. Just give it up!
 
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