Stolen Bike. Known Perpetrator. How to get Police to take some action?

[steveindenmark]

As an ex copper I would gave had no problem knocking on his door and asking him if I could search his place. He would refuse and I doubt if a JOP would issue a warrant under these circumstances. I've done my job, but according to a lot of posters on here I would still be a tosser. I would be heartbroken at being called nasty names. On the other hand if you have good quality CCTV footage of him and it is him who answers the door. Arrest him and search the place, its simple.

I think that about sums it up.

Maybe your employers will have better luck with the police. After all it is their bike

 

[rideswithmoobs]

Unfortunately, as anybody with combat sports (or resistance tested martial arts) experience will say. Size and Weight DOES make a difference, experience of fighting gives you the knowledge of when to walk away

Krav Maga is not a combat. It's real world self defence and works.
I grew up with never over estimate the big ones and never under estimate the little one. My comment was more tongue in cheek but sometimes you have to fight. You can't always walk away. And growing up I couldn't
Anyway this is digressing from the thread

 

[Brandane]

I doubt if a JOP would issue a warrant under these circumstances.

How much evidence do you need to get a search warrant in England then? If the OP had come to me at my place of work in 2001 with the following statement .....

we have a 99% certainty that we know who stole a £1000 electric bike at the weekend. We have a name and address for them and a verifiable source for this information.

I would have to clarify how he has come to the "99% certainty" bit. I can't see any JP that I knew having problems with issuing a warrant. The problem with Police going to the door without a warrant, is - as you know - that if the scrote is even a little streetwise he will tell you to F off and shut the door in your face. The property will then be disposed of, long before you can go and get a warrant.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Where does calling people eg the police names get you, exactly?

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

As an ex copper I would gave had no problem knocking on his door and asking him if I could search his place. He would refuse and I doubt if a JOP would issue a warrant under these circumstances. I've done my job, but according to a lot of posters on here I would still be a tosser. I would be heartbroken at being called nasty names. On the other hand if you have good quality CCTV footage of him and it is him who answers the door. Arrest him and search the place, its simple.

I think that about sums it up.

Maybe your employers will have better luck with the police. After all it is their bike

Thanks for the sensible reply amongst an outbreak of keyboard warrior-ship, and I can understand if that is the case, that despite this being pretty clear it's still not enough to issue a warrant. Just seems to be a case of "what the hell do you need to do to get your collar felt" - and if the police are tied so much then I would find that frustrating enough to lose heart or interest

What does irritate with this is the promises to visit to take a statement and the 3x failure to follow through with this. "What we need to get a warrant is xxxx" would be a help...you just never know

 

[DaveReading]

Sorry Dave shall I speak really slowly just for you. I was not aware it was the police - they were so close with the lights full on that it was scary and I wanted to get out of the way as quick as I could so that they could be on their way.

I think you'll need to speak slower still. Regardless of who they were, why not just let them past?

 

[ayceejay]

Holy Molley that is what I was trying to do FFS but it was their intention to push me above the speed limit.
And, by the way read my lips Over and Out

 

[fossyant]

@Sheffield_Tiger I'm not surprised at the Police response. Unfortunately, there are not many officers available to investigate anything with sure evidence you have. As an employer, I'd park some liveried company vans outside the house for a day or two.

My accident wasn't investigated. Long and short, I lived, can walk, the third party insurance will pay (police officers word). It's incredibly frustrating, but there aren't enough officers.

 

[Cubist]

Perhaps they are staying away to avoid getting embroiled in this sort of thing, or being called "the filth" by an earlier poster?
Perhaps they would have had some helpful ideas but some posts have made them not bother?

That's about it I'm afraid, and not for the first time. . PM incoming.

 

[Tin Pot]

What I cant get my head round is why even bother, its not your bike, its your employers, so its recovery and theft has absolutely nothing at all to do with you.Also the buisness will have to be insured for thefts so the correct thing is for your employer to make a claim. Problem solved, they get reinbursed.
I could understand you being upset if the bike was your property but its not.

It's morally wrong to steal. It should upset every right-thinking member of society.

 

[Incontinentia Buttocks]

As @steveindenmark has said. If this log came to me first I'd visit you to verify what your saying, i.e how good is your info. This isn't a dig at you as there is a huge difference between truth and proof.
Then I'd call on the offender, he'd deny any knowledge at all and unless the info given by the OP was very very good I'd have no hope of getting a warrant.
It's all a bit crap I'm afraid, as is the part about them not turning up when promised.
Do they have an appointment system?

 

[jefmcg]

What I cant get my head round is why even bother, its not your bike

Wow. Seems like a member of South Yorkshire Police has come to explain their policy

 

[screenman]

What I cant get my head round is why even bother, its not your bike, its your employers, so its recovery and theft has absolutely nothing at all to do with you.Also the buisness will have to be insured for thefts so the correct thing is for your employer to make a claim. Problem solved, they get reinbursed.
I could understand you being upset if the bike was your property but its not.

It costs a lot of money to make a claim.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

What I cant get my head round is why even bother, its not your bike.

Same reason that I phoned the police when someone was clobbered around the head. Even though it wasn't my head so apparently I shouldn't have worried about it.

 

[jefmcg]

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This comes off as you crowing that someone is stupid enough to care about their work place, or to expect any sort of helpful response from the police.

I'm going to assume you aren't the sort of person your two posts here make you appear.