Taken out by another cyclist.

[mr_cellophane]

Unmarried mums Eh ?

 

[hydridmatt]

"Senseless evil witch" "Bitch"

You don't know her apart from a ten minute meeting in which she was caught totally off-guard, but you are happy to call her all this on the internet, as well as putting her name online. She is a mother whose kid has just been in an RTA - remember your worst behaviour when stressed and consider whether you might be over-reacting. But hey, judging by the comments on a cyclists website, she is not much liked...

 

[jonny jeez]

"Senseless evil witch" "Bitch"

I felt the same.

insensitive, shocked, ignorant possibly

but "evil", "witch" and a "bitch" most definatley not.

If this is the type of "evil witch" you encounter up your way..then never...ever travel down south to london where you would most likely have been butted, then stabbed and then victimised by her boyfriend and his mates for ever more.

My view on her was that she seemed like a pleasant women who cared for her children but who was ill educated on cycle and road law (most probably used to the local kids all banging into one another and taking it knock for knock). She is also most likely unaware of the cost of your bent nor the danger her son put himself in.

Personally I would remove the public link (however interesting it was for us to view) and send her a private link or else this could easily develop into a hate campaign and start to ruin peoples lives, if you have published her name and address on the internet then you may well have already started this process.

it was a nasty indecent, of which you survived unscathed but she is not a nasty person...and neither are you.

let it go

 

[Paul J]

I did ask the kid his name. I assume that the Mums surname is the same, . I also made an audio note of the address on the video, but tbh, I know Rossington pretty well as I work a mile away. So yes I do have full details.

I initially asked for a contact number really just so I could give her a ring to confirm that there was no serious damage (I had given the bike as serious a check as I could at the roadside, and aside from a couple of scratches----no damage.) I would have called her to confirm that no further action would be taken by myself, and to alleviate any worries she' may have had.

This was, of course before she turned out to be such a senseless, evil witch.

I will be sending her a link to the youtube video. Apparently she's not much liked judging by most comments, either by her attitude to me, or her parenting 'skills'. Hopefully, for the kids sake, she'll see the (potentially lethal) seriousness, and educate her Son to prevent future 'accidents'. Maybe she'll also adjust her attitude in future, but I seriously doubt it!

Wow so big of you to send a video link. Maybe before you start slinging this sort of thing about you'd better watch out she doesen't go to the police herself and report you. Maybe forward her this forum so she can actually see how you are running at the mouth. Easy to have a go when she or her husband cannot voice an opinion. If I was the boys parents I would be seeking legal advice to take you to court for defamation of character and anything else my son could take action against you for. After all the child is a minor so will get legal aid.

He rode off the path without looking. You hit him, your lucky that he didn't (?) substain anymore injuries other than a damaged ego and a broken bike, he is a child or are you forgetting this?

It's people like you with the "I am better than every other road user attitude" that gets up drivers and other cyclists noses.

 

[Hebe]

If that were my child, they wouldn't be allowed back on a bike until they'd help repay the cost of repairs to both bikes, and completed Bikeability.

Equally, if that were my child, I'd be pretty upset about footage of them and enough information to identify his address being posted on public internet forums without my consent.

 

[Melonfish]

I thought about this last night and it appears that what i want to say has almost already been said by the last few posts.
but please don't take this the wrong way when i say quite honestly from an outside point of view your video makes you look like a complete tool.

now take a minute to get over those words and think about it. you have posted on the internet a video of yourself hitting a child on a bike, then the video shows you concerned with cleaning up YOUR bike and your fallen kit, there is a cursery "are you ok?" to the kid
then the video shows you confronting the childs mother and having an arguement.
like i say, from an outside point of view you could not have posted a worse video.

Your biggest mistake however was posting it on an open google searchable internet forum, listing the mothers possible last name and more importantly posting the childs face accross the internet.
i can tell you now if you'd posted my childs face on the internet without my permission regardless of whether or not he was to blame for an accident i'd have the police feel your collar in minutes and i can't describe the beating i'd give you as a parent. i pray she does not go to the police over this.
i'm actually going to request a mod removes this thread because honestly it puts Cyclechat in a rather sticky legal situation because of your actions. I want to say a lot more but i don't think i need to at this point i'd just be ranting.
thanks
pete

 

[Paul J]

Totally agree. I have downloaded a copy of this page as evidence if needed for the CHILD & PARENT

 

[betty swollocks]

You could not have avoided hitting that child: it was entirely the child's fault.
What you did right was ensuring the child's safety after and escorting him home. This was the decent and honorable thing to do and you did it.
What you did wrong was a) to get into and argument with the child's mother at this stage in the proceedings and b) be abusive about her on a public forum and c) post the video on youtube.
What you need to do is a) calm down, b) withdraw the video from youtube, c) burn a copy of the video and give this to the parents together with a covering letter - the letter should contain no threats, no apology from you (it wasn't your fault) a bill for any damage to your bike and wishes from you that i) the boy is ok and ii) that he and the parents learn from this.
And take it from there.

 

[jugglingphil]

My other half arrived at the scene of a big accident at the weekend. Young lad had written his car off. She said everyone else was just picking their way throught the wreckage and driving off, so she got out and rang an ambulance for him, checked he was ok...etc

It sometimes feels like we live in a hostile, every-man-for-himself world.

One of the joys of cycling is that it enables you to interact with the surroundings, driving a car is very different.

 

[Paul J]

I agree take it to them with a copy of this forum thread as well as your name and address so they can send around the police and don't forget to keep the thread upto date so we can see how it pans out for the greater good.

 

[davefb]

I thought about this last night and it appears that what i want to say has almost already been said by the last few posts.
but please don't take this the wrong way when i say quite honestly from an outside point of view your video makes you look like a complete tool.

now take a minute to get over those words and think about it. you have posted on the internet a video of yourself hitting a child on a bike, then the video shows you concerned with cleaning up YOUR bike and your fallen kit, there is a cursery "are you ok?" to the kid
then the video shows you confronting the childs mother and having an arguement.
like i say, from an outside point of view you could not have posted a worse video.

Your biggest mistake however was posting it on an open google searchable internet forum, listing the mothers possible last name and more importantly posting the childs face accross the internet.
i can tell you now if you'd posted my childs face on the internet without my permission regardless of whether or not he was to blame for an accident i'd have the police feel your collar in minutes and i can't describe the beating i'd give you as a parent. i pray she does not go to the police over this.
i'm actually going to request a mod removes this thread because honestly it puts Cyclechat in a rather sticky legal situation because of your actions. I want to say a lot more but i don't think i need to at this point i'd just be ranting.
thanks
pete

what are you talking about, what police issue is posting a video of someone online?

public place...

 

[ianrauk]

what are you talking about, what police issue is posting a video of someone online?

public place...

However he does make a good point about posting the mothers name. Of which has now been removed

 

[Melonfish]

Someone as in a general member of the public no. a child? are you seriously telling me you'd have no problem with someone posting images of your child on the internet?

 

[gambatte]

public place...

<Devils Advocate mode on>
The 'confrontation' with the parent took place not in a public place, but on private land. A private driveway.
<Devils Advocate mode off>

 

[davefb]

<Devils Advocate mode on>
The 'confrontation' with the parent took place not in a public place, but on private land. A private driveway.
<Devils Advocate mode off>

hehe yeah thats "true"

though it's still just a civil matter..