Team BKool CycleChat

[BILL S]

I hate those +11% Bkool sections. Normally I would stand up during such sections, but with Bkool I get tyre slippage, so I can't do that. So I end up riding exact opposite what I would do in real life. E.g. in real life I stand up during the first 3 Alpe d'huez hairpins, and then sit down from there. On Bkool I have to sit down at first and then stand up on the lesser gradients.

I'm now finding it necessary to let air out of the tyre if there's a long uphill section. Speed lost by doing that on the flat and downhill will be more than made up for when the uphill starts. Really high PSI makes the up hills terrible. For last nights ride I was at 100 psi. For Dhuez I'd probably try 80 to avoid the slippage and hopefully be able to stand up.

 

[theboxers]

I'm with you there @TurboTommy - I struggle to eat or drink as i am gasping throughout the torture.

But I did clearly remember going past AAAC 30 seconds into last night's effort - I thought what's going on, but it didn't last long ,and normal service resumed as I tailed in last, but you can't take those memories away.

What a sad life I lead.

You have to pick your fights with AAAC

 

[bobinski]

Just did the Merry Harriers climb after my sweet spot session this morning jesus that hurt new 5 minute effort power level pb.

Wow, that's pretty darned fast. I think you and AAAC could have some interesting tussle if you joined our races.

 

[Randyberlin]

One picture is worth thousand words.
Don't harsh my buzz Bill by telling me you were only using one leg or using it to cool down.

 

[designjacob]

Wow, that's pretty darned fast. I think you and AAAC could have some interesting tussle if you joined our races.

It killed me i felt like crying 4 minutes in was going to do another 30 min sweet spot workout later but my legs are dead.
I may attempt stage 4 tomorrow or just do a long sweet spot session depending on how the legs feel.

 

[AAAC 76C]

Yes my kickr would of ground me to a halt on a climb like that. I noticed the kickr still has the bkool bug about slow starts, shame really.

Added to the fact us Bkoolers can sprint off of the line like the wind due to the resistance delay purposely built into the SW/FW to make it 'more realistic'!
This same 'realism feature' allows us to sprint into steep hills and transition a 60 kph at times, speeds we cannot otherwise achieve on the flat.
I myself find I can often climb low gradients quicker than I can descend them and the concept that the ascending watts to speed flat line appears to happen at different percentage climbs for individuals based on their physiology is probably an attempt to allow all trainer makes to compete on a level field.
None the less I still thoroughly enjoy BKooling particularly with the Brady bunch here on Cycle Chat.

 

[BILL S]

One picture is worth thousand words.
Don't harsh my buzz Bill by telling me you were only using one leg or using it to cool down.

Randy, I was pushing hard on that one. I'm beginning to think you've set out to systematically beat all my top rides.

 

[AAAC 76C]

@Goldwolfie

Ask the seller what firmware it is currently running. Some of the earlier Pro's would not upgrade and they are stuck on really old firmware. This also means no ANT+ F-EC so no using it with Zwift and/or trainer road.

I'd make sure you get a pro already updated to 3.06 firmware (or later).

Geoff

Like my Pro, and my Classic is as well as its one of the real early ones with a 'plastic' roller and a USB B interface for updates.

 

[BILL S]

None the less I still thoroughly enjoy BKooling particularly with the Brady bunch here on Cycle Chat.

The Brady Bunch
"a family that is so seemingly unrealistically perfect that it's sickening"

 

[BILL S]

It killed me i felt like crying 4 minutes in was going to do another 30 min sweet spot workout later but my legs are dead.
I may attempt stage 4 tomorrow or just do a long sweet spot session depending on how the legs feel.

Looking forward to racing you on a nice flat 20 miler.

 

[LBHIFI]

One picture is worth thousand words.

You're right. Now hurry and get that power supply. You only got 3% left .

 

[AAAC 76C]

I could as usual tell that AAAC was hanging back and waiting for me, fully aware that the real race was when the big hill started. I was thinking that as long as you stayed out front you were at a disadvantage but was under no illusion about who would be weakest when it all started to go vertical. I was hoping that being out in front would tire you out.
I think we all get to know the riders we are usually alongside and I think you can usually predict what they're up to and their likely strategy. A word of warning about Lars though. He is very unpredictable and hard to figure out what he's going to do next. You don't know when he's going to make his break as it could be anywhere. I'm only ever likely to try that at the end, if I have any energy left.

Spot on with Lars Bill and I have no doubt if he had been riding on Thursday none of us would have arrived at the climb as 'fresh' as we were.

I think one of the reasons for my lower HR readings yesterday was because I deliberately did not set out frantically as I have to most times to make sure I get to the descents with Bill and Lars, or slightly ahead, and so everything up to the climb was very measured.
In addition not once either did I sprint into a hill to get a pro sling.
During the Climb whilst Bill set out with his self proclaimed 'gaming' I was put on a back foot as he was quickly going away from me but the periods he was able to do this appear to have been reasonably short and there after I was constantly backing off trying to coax Bill and Bridgy into fighting back.
My final climbing effort was around 250 watts which for me does not put much of a strain on the ticker,
I guess that even though my max HR is limited (partially due to age and partially self enforced) its volumetric efficiency must be pretty good so much so I often feel that it is my lungs that are slowing me down and not my heart.
The volumetric efficiency would make total sense because if you could have seen how blocked three of my heart arteries were before I had my stents fitted you may have wondered how I could have walked into town let alone live a reasonably active life.

 

[berty bassett]

Looking forward to racing you on a nice flat 20 miler.

Very thinly disguised challenge ???

 

[AAAC 76C]

I'm now finding it necessary to let air out of the tyre if there's a long uphill section. Speed lost by doing that on the flat and downhill will be more than made up for when the uphill starts. Really high PSI makes the up hills terrible. For last nights ride I was at 100 psi. For Dhuez I'd probably try 80 to avoid the slippage and hopefully be able to stand up.

My front wheel stand made from a TACX Roller fork stand and some old roof rails strapped to the Trainer front cross member helps to stop the bike rolling forward and taking weight off of the roller.
I also try and keep the bars and upper body steady and push back through the torso rather than rock the bike, which on a Bkool Turbo is a good way to end up on the floor.

 

[BILL S]

Very thinly disguised challenge ???

Well some Tacx riders are often tempted to stick to the steep bits .