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Daddy Pig

Veteran
I can't hold you guys on the flat or downhill, I just end up spinning out, my heart rate goes through the roof and I'm cooked.

:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:
Sounds like you need a bigger gear! What size chainset and cassette are you using?
 
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perswe

Über Member
Location
Uppsala
thanks for a great live ride! I have not done many of those over the years (with more than two or three people) ...difficult to find the right pace...
i'm happy the ride didn't have the really really steep climbs (above 10%) and that the second (or third?) was neither too hard nor too long. I need to improve my starting though....
and Bkool only through me out once (about midrace) so that is also something to be thankful for...I guess.
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
thanks for a great live ride! I have not done many of those over the years (with more than two or three people) ...difficult to find the right pace...
i'm happy the ride didn't have the really really steep climbs (above 10%) and that the second (or third?) was neither too hard nor too long. I need to improve my starting though....
and Bkool only through me out once (about midrace) so that is also something to be thankful for...I guess.
Great ride Per. Once you dropped bill I felt I wasn't going to hold you off so I eased up a little bit and then worked well together to keep Bill away but I was cooked on the last climb and worried I was going to cramp so had to let you go, sorry.
 

Aleman

Knees are FUBAR but I don't like to mention it
Location
Blackpool UK
Sounds like you need a bigger gear! What size chainset and cassette are you using?
Compact 50/34 and 11-32 ... I feel it's time to move up as well, especially as I have drooped the weight I was carrying when I restarted this cycling lark. I'm thinking of going for a 53/39 But using Absolute Black Oval Rings (You try getting Ultegra 6800 rings nowadays at a reasonable price) ... Cassette wise I'm tempted to stick with the 11-32, although dropping to a 11-28 would hamper climbing that much, but would give a smoother range fr normal riding.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
I can't hold you guys on the flat or downhill, I just end up spinning out, my heart rate goes through the roof and I'm cooked.

:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

Looking at your numbers it looks like you're a lightweight, and young? Cadence is fine, the odd spike but a lowish average of 75rpm. Also you burnt a low calorie amount compared to a bigger rider.

You're a true climber, like Berty
Edit found your weight 65kg,
 
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Aleman

Knees are FUBAR but I don't like to mention it
Location
Blackpool UK
Looking at your numbers it looks like you're a lightweight, and young? Cadence is fine, the odd spike but a lowish average of 75rpm. Also you burnt a low calorie amount compared to a bigger rider.

You're a true climber, like Berty
Lightweight at 66Kg perhaps, Young - Veteran 2 at 54, with a birthday coming up in 6 weeks ... Mentally probably just out of nappies really :rofl:

More of a puncheur than a true climber. Shortish Steep climbs love them, long shallow ones, hate them, Long Steep ones, lets face it no one likes those!

I'm going to have to do some work to get my cadence up, but then minute that happens even at low watts, heart rate climbs. Need to do another Maximal Heart Rate test, as the value I'm using now (203BPM) was set climbing one of the local hills 18 months or more ago. Just have no aerobic fitness, which is annoying me as I used to run marathons in good times ... I just have to remind myself that it was 30-35 years ago though :biggrin:
 

Daddy Pig

Veteran
Lightweight at 66Kg perhaps, Young - Veteran 2 at 54, with a birthday coming up in 6 weeks ... Mentally probably just out of nappies really :rofl:

More of a puncheur than a true climber. Shortish Steep climbs love them, long shallow ones, hate them, Long Steep ones, lets face it no one likes those!

I'm going to have to do some work to get my cadence up, but then minute that happens even at low watts, heart rate climbs. Need to do another Maximal Heart Rate test, as the value I'm using now (203BPM) was set climbing one of the local hills 18 months or more ago. Just have no aerobic fitness, which is annoying me as I used to run marathons in good times ... I just have to remind myself that it was 30-35 years ago though :biggrin:
Working on the cadence is a must. You will go from pushing the pedals to spinning them. Far easier over longer rides....
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
Yep, that's a nasty one! Great riding @AAAC 76C - I think I was holding you back on the first part of the climb but I was giving it everything I had! All I can say is I'm glad you're not Spanish, or Danish!

You weren't holding me back.
I have had the odd day that I can't seem to get my HR up and today looked like one of those and it concerns me that if I push too hard I will get into trouble so although my HR was down I was working reasonably hard.
I wasn't until I spun out a couple of time on the descents that the 4th cylinder kicked in so having been goaded by DP I decided that if I couldn't keep you up to the pace of that Red Hat Spanish lightweight (54kg)I would try and jump across to him knowing that if I could get within 20 seconds of him I would catch him on the descent.
I can't believe how hard I had to dig on the top of the big climb and he was still going away but gravity was on my side on the descent and I caught him when I was resting (relatively) .
I think catching the other guy (68kg) was out of the question.
I'd forgotten how hard that was last year but even then, in the Nations Cup, I was so far ahead of the guy in 4th I coasted up the last climb once I realised I was not going to catch Tommy Watt. That put me in good stead for the Velodrome session, one of the first in and already rested.
None the less I was 5 minutes quicker then.
Perhaps BSim/BKool SW/FW is catching up with us.
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
Wow super high rate for someone in their 50s. My max is 185, I'm much younger than you at 52 :biggrin:

185 is closer to my age than my max HR.
I can push 172 but I don't like to.
I tend to back of when things go north of 162 unless it is the end of the session.
Couple of summers back I could bang it up to 162 and stay there for the whole session.
 

humphuk

Regular
Location
Loughborough
So, I just got my legs ripped off by a bunch of 50 somethings....somewhat depressing being on the wrong side of mid 50s myself. I got off twice - once to open the patio door on overheating....once to move my turbo back....as it had moved forward...jammed under the table and I was dripping on the dining room carpet. I did this strategically on the downhill bits, not to lose too much time! Most importantly, I am having fun. Cheers guys
 
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