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AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
We'll get this right one of these days Keith. Not sure what happed but you obviously slowed to let me catch up but then once caught up I couldn't stay with you as you were too fast and you ended up a few seconds ahead again, then I think you waited again and I caught up but then you seemed to disappear and were showing as 2 minutes behind so I thought you must have stopped. It might have worked better if you set off at the same time as me and we could work together from the start, although not sure if that's allowed in the rules. Fortunately for me I didn't have to wait long for Paul and AAAC to come along and give me a tow that I could only just barely hold onto. Towards the end I couldn't even get enough air into my lungs whereas normally its my legs that give in.

I had a moment when me, the and Bridgy were drafting and I thought Bridgy was dropping off so I was backing off just to realise it was me.
I tried to change my outfit twice before the ride and it kept showing me in a grey out standard kit.
At my age it's hard to pick out the different players when they are all dressed the same.
Never have that problem with @Add .
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Unfortunately, the Moving Time is wrong and includes all the time you sat on the line! Seems daft, but I'll have to go through the video and try and get the time you actually started for every rider and subtract it from the Moving Time! What a nightmare...
Oh that's annoying - I thought the moving time would be exactly that! Anyone know if there's any way of getting those extra stats on a ride that you can get by clicking on your own time on a league ride (even though this isn't a league ride)? I think that shows how much time you were stationary or at "low velocity"......
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
At the risk of sounding a bit dumb...for these handicaps are we menat to use the elapsed time shown on the bsim as our start time? I used the actual clock time (which may explain why I started before the likes of Keith who was meant to start before me).

It was a bit of a lonely furrow for me too until the last couple of kms when I had Bill and Bridgy for company, but I didn't have enough left in the tank for the sprint finish! ^_^

Was a great race though. I love these handicap races! Well done to all :cheers:

Off to collapse now.

I agree it was much better. the only question is do we use real time or bkool time. I used bkool time only to find I think @peterob 30 seconds ahead of me rather than 5 behind me. This wouldn't have helped when I had a glitch that ruined tonight for me, but we should decide on which time to use.

I used my watch simply because the bsim clock doesn't show seconds and I had to start at 10.50. Probably do need to find a way of synchronising clocks or something......
 

Del C

Veteran
Location
Horley
Unfortunately, the Moving Time is wrong and includes all the time you sat on the line! Seems daft, but I'll have to go through the video and try and get the time you actually started for every rider and subtract it from the Moving Time! What a nightmare...
Ah! That explains it!

After all the advice and encouragement I got last weekend, changing bike on the turbo and ignoring @Randyberlin 's advice to put my old bike back on and run my tyres at 60 psi :laugh: I thought I was a lot quicker tonight. When I finished my moving time was only 4s faster than my PB at 39.20.

Then I looked at Strava and my time was 37.50. All my previous rides except one have been identical to the Bkool time, so that must explain what happened.

Thanks to @AAAC 76C for letting me finish ahead of him. Could see you catching me on the last short climb and just didn't have enough left to hold you off........... until you let me blast past on the last little descent to the line!

Anyhow, that felt much better!
 
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LBHIFI

Veteran
Location
Liseleje
My PC time, BSim time and WiFi updated clock time are all different.
I usually do a time update via an internet timeserver before racing in bkool, but didn't have the time this time (loads of "time" there ^_^)
 

gbrown

Geoff on Bkool
Location
South Somerset
Oh that's annoying - I thought the moving time would be exactly that! Anyone know if there's any way of getting those extra stats on a ride that you can get by clicking on your own time on a league ride (even though this isn't a league ride)? I think that shows how much time you were stationary or at "low velocity"......

Actually, it's even worse, as although you and Bill finished with a fag paper between you, you have different Moving Times, but they are 8 and 9 minutes slower than your previous times, but not the same as the elapsed time as you crossed the line!

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keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
We'll get this right one of these days Keith. Not sure what happed but you obviously slowed to let me catch up but then once caught up I couldn't stay with you as you were too fast and you ended up a few seconds ahead again, then I think you waited again and I caught up but then you seemed to disappear and were showing as 2 minutes behind so I thought you must have stopped. It might have worked better if you set off at the same time as me and we could work together from the start, although not sure if that's allowed in the rules. Fortunately for me I didn't have to wait long for Paul and AAAC to come along and give me a tow that I could only just barely hold onto. Towards the end I couldn't even get enough air into my lungs whereas normally its my legs that give in.
We'll get this right one of these days Keith. Not sure what happed but you obviously slowed to let me catch up but then once caught up I couldn't stay with you as you were too fast and you ended up a few seconds ahead again, then I think you waited again and I caught up but then you seemed to disappear and were showing as 2 minutes behind so I thought you must have stopped. It might have worked better if you set off at the same time as me and we could work together from the start, although not sure if that's allowed in the rules. Fortunately for me I didn't have to wait long for Paul and AAAC to come along and give me a tow that I could only just barely hold onto. Towards the end I couldn't even get enough air into my lungs whereas normally its my legs that give in.
Perfect analysis Bill and yes when we do get it right we'll be bloody unstoppable, young children will scream with fight and forever more people will say "yes, I was there the day Keith and Bill got it together and rode @bridgy and @AAAC 76C into early graves! I wouldn't hold your breathe though, I suspect it may never happen! Last Thursday i felt a bit tired and couldn't hold on to you, @Aleman and @perswe but tonight I felt strong. Yes, I realised that Peterob and I having syncronised our starts and the best thing was not to try to chase him at 30 seconds down but to ride a strong tempo trying not to make too much effort, let you catch me and then work together. I tried to dig in to give you a breather once you caught me but it was a bit too much so I eased a bit again and we were just starting to get it together when my guy decided to stop pedalling and I got the message asking if I wanted to stop or to restart to keep pedalling....which i was ! when it did restart I was 10 seconds behind Bridgy and AAAc and realised the only option was to try and catch them and hopefully be dragged up to you: of course the effort required to pull back 10 seconds on them meant i couldn't hold onto them once I caught them. Ho hum! let's see what happens on Thursday, i ahve alot of rage that needs to be let out, I hope it's Thursday's climb that gets beaten to a pulp!
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
I used my watch simply because the bsim clock doesn't show seconds and I had to start at 10.50. Probably do need to find a way of synchronising clocks or something......
I used the bkool clock that i think shows the minutes and seconds after the first person starts, i started at 08:50, my handicap and though i took a second for my guy to move, if we all used that at least we'd be in the right order with the right time differences between us. It would just mean that everybody had to be on the line before the first guy starts and it doesn't matter if he starts at 20:00:24 or 19:59:50 in reality.
 
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Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Unfortunately, the Moving Time is wrong and includes all the time you sat on the line! Seems daft, but I'll have to go through the video and try and get the time you actually started for every rider and subtract it from the Moving Time! What a nightmare...
Buggers up the ave watts etc too ... i was struggling to understand why my ave watts were so low for ages, then it clicked that I sat on the line doing about 70 watts for 7 minutes d'oh :banghead: I recon I was averaging about 250-260 for moving watts so not bad at all. Onwards and upwards :biggrin:
 
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