The Olympic flame.....what's all that about?????

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subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
God your a bunch of mizzos
I went to see it pass through Rochdale , and it was a great day , loads of things for the kids to do , performances on a stage and just a really good carnival atmosphere.
Yes the torch came through and was all very nice and all , but it was the fun day of everyone out having a good time that was the main thing.

no. just some of us are sick of having olympics rammed down our throats for 7 years with no real benefits for the communities here affected by it.
i will be cheering for our sportsmen/women in the 'lympics and paralympics but i will be so glad when its all over and he "legacy" is revealed.
Bow flyover has been pushed as the alternative route for cyclists as a number of towpaths (outside the park) have been closed for "security reasons" which is tosh really as the opposite side of the canal is just as good for anybody to stage an attack if they really wanted to.

but yes if that makes me a mizzo then yes i am
 

DiddlyDodds

Random Resident
Location
Littleborough
Yep Mizzos ..
 
I was in the West Country when Princess Diana died, and there was a local campaign against a shop owner who was not closing on the day of her funeral.

There were protests, letters to the press and radio phone-ins as the poor shopkeeper was bullied into closing.

The Olympics is a little bit like that at the moment..... you are not allowed to question or deviate from the party line that the Olympics are brilliant!
 

toroddf

Guest
The Olympics is a little bit like that at the moment..... you are not allowed to question or deviate from the party line that the Olympics are brilliant!

Ditto for Cricket, all year round. But expressing my highly controversal views on Cricket and those who enjoys it in the open would just serve to hurt people's feelings.

But yes, the Olympics is getting into this Kim Il Sung territory now. Hence, my TV will remain mostly cold and I will use the TV programme guide wisely.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
[QUOTE 1948009, member: 76"]I reckon only Cunobelin or Arch are going to be in with a shout of getting Gold in front of that nonsense.

Arch may pip it by proposing she has an attention span too short for most events, but can watch the boatrace. The last time I checked the Boat Race too a lot longer than 9.5 seconds, indeed it takes about 18 minutes, which is longer than most track and field events, only the marathon and the 10,000m will take longer. Same with the swimming and the majority of the velodrome events.[/quote]

Of course if you actually read my post, you'd have seen what I said. Anything more than half an hour per heat/game/whatever tends to bore me. MDB and I were discussing the Tour, which goes on for hours, over days. Hint. 18 minutes is less than half an hour.

I've already said, several times, in several threads, that I'll enjoy watching some of the Olympics. Please try very hard to understand the concept of separating the actual sport, and the commercial hype. Go on. You can do it if you try.
 

toroddf

Guest
The commercial hype is all about getting us to consume more of the products that will both send us to an early grave and/or failing that; bankrupting Great Britain twenty, make that fifteen years down the road.

Having a McDonalds restaurant in the Olympic park is as good taste as advertising cyanide in Israel.

End of the rant.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Just a damaged guy.
Location
Craggy Island
The commercial hype is all about getting us to consume more of the products that will both send us to an early grave and/or failing that; bankrupting Great Britain twenty, make that fifteen years down the road.

Having a McDonalds restaurant in the Olympic park is as good taste as advertising cyanide Bacon in Israel.

End of the rant.

FTFY
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
'And now the Raffle'

Sums it up really. :becool:



And now.... the snooker... with Terry Grifiths and Steve Davis... (yes I know that would be in about 1985, but shhh!)

Seriously though, I seem to be the opposite. I like to see a good old battle ensuing, and the longer the better as the tension gets ratcheted up.

That said, this Le Tour was a bit dull, despite who won, it has to be said, and well, all I really wanted was for Froome to make a break for it and put the cat amongst the pigeons as it were. Instead what we got was a Coronation lasting about a fortnight.

The TdF is never dull! However, agree that the Wiggins combo flattened it once Nibali was put in his place and Evans' challenge subsided like one of his tyres.

Contador was one of the ghosts at the feast; could the culture of the Tour have finally left the doping culture behind? Contenders who relied on a little help from their friends left 'unprepared' and now staring at the awful prospect of having to work harder to keep up?

The commercial hype is all about getting us to consume more of the products that will both send us to an early grave and/or failing that; bankrupting Great Britain twenty, make that fifteen years down the road.

Having a McDonalds restaurant in the Olympic park is as good taste as advertising cyanide in Israel.

End of the rant.

McDonald's have at least waived their tax break:


Tax in brief: How the exemptions work
The London 2012 tax exemptions granted by HMRC are part of a package of concessions required by the International Olympic Committee (IOC). They also include the provision of 500 chauffeur-driven cars and 40,000 hotel rooms.
The tax breaks, which will apply for seven months, remove the requirement to pay corporation tax and income tax for "non-resident" companies and individuals who take part in "Games-related activities" or provide services to London 2012.
Thus non-UK sponsors and individuals, from athletes to visiting journalists, will not have to pay tax while involved in the Olympics. Nor will the Swiss-based IOC, which is set to earn £2.7bn from the Games.

It was put under pressure to do so by campaigners such as 38 degrees:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/olympic-tax-dodging-petition#petition

McDonald's, which expects to sell £3m of food at its 1,500-seat Olympics restaurant (its biggest in the world), acknowledged that the cost of turning down the exemption would be minimal since its revenues from the Games would be less than 0.1 per cent of its annual UK sales.
 

atbman

Veteran
Like the torch, this discussion seems to be generating more heat than light. And it seems to be confusing the, unfortunately financially necessary, commercialism with the spirit of the games, including the torch relay.

Living in Morley, I was a bit miffed that I would be carrying it in Leeds and not one of the Morley legs. I was even more miffed that I would have to be at Leeds Town Hall for 5.15am to start the day off at 7.17am. When I was interviewed by Radio Leeds at 6.30 at the foot of the town hall steps, there were already about 300 people there, including a large contingent from our Kids Saturday Bike Club, some of whom had ridden there about 4 miles from north Leeds. The Leeds Youth Orchestra were there playing a suitable range of music, inc. Chariots of Fire (just as the interview started:blush: ). By the time I came out again, at about 7.10 the entire front of the town hall was jammed and people were standing on the central reservation in the middle of the Headrow and on the pavement on the other side, probably a couple of thousand.

Ok, I milked it, with both arms aloft, the cheers were pretty deafening and heartfelt and people had turned out early on their way to work.

And it was great, so there :tongue:

Even where people weren't lined up several deep on the pavements, people on their way to work stopped and applauded. I handed over to a French Swiss bloke working over here, who was hearing impaired, spoke four languages and could lipread in all of them. As each of us got on the following coach, we applauded each other, including a woman who coached football in a really rough area of Leeds, Jane Tomlinson's son, Stephen, people who worked with disabled, disadvantaged, the elderly, charity fundraisers and who mostly made me feel a bit of a fraud - but only a very small bit. And the atmosphere on the coach was great and not the least bit cynical.

The streets in Hunslet and Beeston, not the greatest areas of Leeds, were full, schools were out in force - with their home-made torches - elderly couples at their front gates, kids in hoodies, ethnic and religious minorities, even drivers held up by the procession were leaning out and smiling, waving and using their phone cameras, all applauding and waving. And the support staff said that it had been the same all over the country.

And the short distance (300m on average)? It was carried by all kinds, including a former world veteran triathlon champion and coach with bone cancer, people in their 70s, 80s and 90s (one was 100), physically handicapped people in wheelchairs and so on, so how far should each leg have been? Certainly not the 2+miles I ran when I carried the Queen's Message for the opening of the 1958 Cardiff Commonwealth Games

Since then, I've been invited to show the torch and talk about it (and the day) at schools and Leeds General Infirmary children's ward and education area; the kids on my street were dying to look at it and be photographed holding it; we ran a mini-Olympic Torch Relay round our cycle circuit last Saturday and every kid and their parents wanted to have their photos taken with it.

What a pity that all these people didn't look at it all with the same sense of clear headed logic that you lot have.

Or, to put it another way, what a load of mean, miserable, small-minded, moaning, mithering, complaining, whingeing anti-torch relay griping many of you have posted.

So there.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Like the torch, this discussion seems to be generating more heat than light. And it seems to be confusing the, unfortunately financially necessary, commercialism with the spirit of the games, including the torch relay.

Living in Morley, I was a bit miffed that I would be carrying it in Leeds and not one of the Morley legs. I was even more miffed that I would have to be at Leeds Town Hall for 5.15am to start the day off at 7.17am. When I was interviewed by Radio Leeds at 6.30 at the foot of the town hall steps, there were already about 300 people there, including a large contingent from our Kids Saturday Bike Club, some of whom had ridden there about 4 miles from north Leeds. The Leeds Youth Orchestra were there playing a suitable range of music, inc. Chariots of Fire (just as the interview started:blush: ). By the time I came out again, at about 7.10 the entire front of the town hall was jammed and people were standing on the central reservation in the middle of the Headrow and on the pavement on the other side, probably a couple of thousand.

Ok, I milked it, with both arms aloft, the cheers were pretty deafening and heartfelt and people had turned out early on their way to work.

And it was great, so there :tongue:

Even where people weren't lined up several deep on the pavements, people on their way to work stopped and applauded. I handed over to a French Swiss bloke working over here, who was hearing impaired, spoke four languages and could lipread in all of them. As each of us got on the following coach, we applauded each other, including a woman who coached football in a really rough area of Leeds, Jane Tomlinson's son, Stephen, people who worked with disabled, disadvantaged, the elderly, charity fundraisers and who mostly made me feel a bit of a fraud - but only a very small bit. And the atmosphere on the coach was great and not the least bit cynical.

The streets in Hunslet and Beeston, not the greatest areas of Leeds, were full, schools were out in force - with their home-made torches - elderly couples at their front gates, kids in hoodies, ethnic and religious minorities, even drivers held up by the procession were leaning out and smiling, waving and using their phone cameras, all applauding and waving. And the support staff said that it had been the same all over the country.

And the short distance (300m on average)? It was carried by all kinds, including a former world veteran triathlon champion and coach with bone cancer, people in their 70s, 80s and 90s (one was 100), physically handicapped people in wheelchairs and so on, so how far should each leg have been? Certainly not the 2+miles I ran when I carried the Queen's Message for the opening of the 1958 Cardiff Commonwealth Games

Since then, I've been invited to show the torch and talk about it (and the day) at schools and Leeds General Infirmary children's ward and education area; the kids on my street were dying to look at it and be photographed holding it; we ran a mini-Olympic Torch Relay round our cycle circuit last Saturday and every kid and their parents wanted to have their photos taken with it.

What a pity that all these people didn't look at it all with the same sense of clear headed logic that you lot have.

Or, to put it another way, what a load of mean, miserable, small-minded, moaning, mithering, complaining, whingeing anti-torch relay griping many of you have posted.

So there.

i will repeat slowly .

TRY


LIVING



WITH




IT




FOR



SEVEN



YEARS

(plus the we're backing the bid period)



THEN


SEE


HOW



ENTHUSIASTIC




YOU





ARE.

our office is divided into those who were working on the park and those who were not. the were's are jaded the were nots are still bubbly excited. thats all it is with me . I am olympiced out .
 

atbman

Veteran
i will repeat slowly .

TRY


LIVING



WITH




IT




FOR



SEVEN



YEARS

(plus the we're backing the bid period)



THEN


SEE


HOW



ENTHUSIASTIC




YOU





ARE.

our office is divided into those who were working on the park and those who were not. the were's are jaded the were nots are still bubbly excited. thats all it is with me . I am olympiced out .

Sorry, I thought this was about the flame, not about those affected by the actual building up of the site and it's surroundings
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Sorry, I thought this was about the flame, not about those affected by the actual building up of the site and it's surroundings

thats exactly what the post is about . all the hype about the games and of course the hype of "lets back the bid" before london was even awarded the games. thats why i said "olympiced out" am heartily sick of the hype for what is in effect a big sports day.
 
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