To those who use a helmet camera in London

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subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Stop digging subaqua, or you'll become subterra.


oh wow clever


and not arguing the legalities.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
In my OED, "cycle" is defined as a bicycle or a tricycle, and a cyclist as "a person who rides a bicycle".

What edition are you using?

Here, I cycle on four wheels. Does this mean I'm not a cyclist. I've also used one & six wheels, how does that work out?
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Totally non-lethal if you ride safely, with foresight and awareness - and don't have a (frankly motorist-esque) selfish must-get-to-the-front-no-matter-the-consequence attitude.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVVoTin6kfI


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2lrECCgyGw


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku9sBmuRe0k


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jEvmRwE9Yc


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jEvmRwE9Yc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbOnseZ4jUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbOnseZ4jUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8Pon_bUaM

Enough examples? each time i'm forced to take action to avoid being hit by a bus. All when they overtake.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
Back to the OP:

The RAC forum, I see tonight, has had a discussion on us. I've read stuff on there before thats been pretty good, a couple of advanced drivers iirc.

http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=12342

I have left a (long) reply on page 4, there were a lot of points to address. I hope the mods and guys who were mentioned on the Beeb peice mind, but I've told them about here. I know the Beeb already mentioned here.
 

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker

Gaz, I was not saying they drive like angels, but that the idiot riding up the inside could have avoided doing that.

Only looked at 1 vid, and as soon as they pull the dangerous overtake, you avoided trouble by braking, which sort of is my point. Irrespective of other people's bad driving, we also have a responsibility for ourselves.
 

Mad at urage

New Member
Not only is relative risk not relevant to the issue of all cyclists being tarred by the RLJ / pavement / ninja brush but the risk can be just as big for motorists.

I have sat beside several who are so intent on safely passing a cyclist that they will involuntarily twitch to the right and / or brake hard if the cyclist deviates from the straight ahead, without thinking about the danger that move might pose to themselves or other road users.

I had one person say to me about a month ago that she was frightened by cyclist who moved out to go round a particularly bad bit of road surface whilst she was overtaking him. I was incredulous that she could be frightened whilst sitting in her 1.5 tonne safety cage that she could have been frightened by a cyclist but not everyone is confident on the roads.
She is (and those you've sat with are) therefore a bad driver(s). If she were driving correctly, looking for hazards in the road ("a particularly bad bit of road surface" for example) and giving the cyclist "at least as much room as ... for a car", she'd be confident that she could overtake safely or she would know that she had to wait behind. Of course most car drivers simply don't look for changing road conditions and so are caught out when the cyclist is unable to maintain a straight line.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Gaz, I was not saying they drive like angels, but that the idiot riding up the inside could have avoided doing that.

Only looked at 1 vid, and as soon as they pull the dangerous overtake, you avoided trouble by braking, which sort of is my point. Irrespective of other people's bad driving, we also have a responsibility for ourselves.

They are all very similar, in every case i have to brake or change direction to avoid being hit by a bus. I think that backs up Ian's comment
foresight and awareness are no help when one of these buses decides to overtake you and pull in to the kerb.

Which you then replied

A cycle has brakes.......?

Not sure what else to say?

Yes, an overtake and immediate kerbing is no good, but if you are being squeezed, do you stay in the 'tube' or drop out the back?

Your statment can be applied to any action on the road to any road user.


Obviously in relation to the video i orignally posted, the cyclist wasn't the smartest and put him self in danger, but my point is busses present a danger to us, even if we cycle perfectly safely. And it is up to us to often counter act their bad driving to save our lives. We shouldn't have to do that.
 
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