Touring...or 'bikepacking'?

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chriswoody

Legendary Member
Location
Northern Germany
I didn't see a spectre on this trip, the cloud was too dense sadly. I have seen one up on Crib Goch a few years ago though, quite a stunning sight. I documented my trip here:

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/bike-packing-up-the-highest-mountain-in-northern-germany.248443/

That looks like a nice loop through Northern Germany though.

That looks a lot like the setups we're going with on our regular road bikes for LEJOG this year. Nice to see you've eschewed mudguards to keep the clean lines of the bike ^_^

I've spent about £60 on the bikepacking bags so it was a way cheaper option to try touring than getting a touring specific bike, panniers etc. If I love it I may invest at some point but we're just dipping our toes and we like our carbon road bikes too

That's what I find so great about these new bags that are being produced, they will allow folk to tour on bikes that are not traditional touring bikes. In the past it was all about hacking and bodging racks onto bikes with P-clips and the like, not impossible but no where as convenient as using dedicated bags. Modern compact frames also facilitate this bike packing approach much better than the old horizontal top tubed frames like my old Galaxy. You can see I've had to shoe-horn an old dry bag under the seat because there not enough seatpost showing to accommodate modern seatbags.

Like you, I was dipping my toes into the waters with the old Galaxy, that trip led me to go on and purchase my Kona, a dedicated off-road tourer and undertake more remote tours like my Slovenia trip.
 
I didn't see a spectre on this trip, the cloud was too dense sadly. I have seen one up on Crib Goch a few years ago though, quite a stunning sight.
Wonderful :smile:
(only ever seen partial glimpses myself. But I've seen a hell of a lot of cloud on mountain tops <hrumph>
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Yes I take your point, but as a sometimes slightly grumpy, solitude loving hill goer, it can be a bit annoying when there's cyclists riding all over our remote places.

When we have slogged all day to get there on foot.

There's so many more rideable land-rover tracks in the Highlands now.

Grump over - I'm being a total hypocrite here anyway... :rolleyes:

That is just like the grump “I love being out in the mountains, and it’s great to see so many more out, but I wish they would all bugger off”
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
That is just like the grump “I love being out in the mountains, and it’s great to see so many more out, but I wish they would all bugger off”

Yes exactly like it - guilty as charged m'lud.

I'm always banging on about greater access, and inclusivity, bringing more people into 'The Great Outdors' because of all the benefits - ya de ta de ya..

But could they just please not be out n about at precisely the times when I am.. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Such hypocrisy :blush:
 

chriswoody

Legendary Member
Location
Northern Germany
Always puzzles me riders who eschew mudguards on a multi day road tour. You will ride in the rain, you will get mud and water thrown onto your clothing. It will make you look like a badger. You will be forced to clean it that night or ride in dirty clothing next morning. Mudguards avoid all that faff.

I'm completely with you on that regard, however I need fat tires for the terrain I'm riding on and that sadly leaves no room for mudguards, or at least I've not found any that fit. The rear pack does offer quite a bit of protection though.
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
I'm completely with you on that regard, however I need fat tires for the terrain I'm riding on and that sadly leaves no room for mudguards, or at least I've not found any that fit. The rear pack does offer quite a bit of protection though.

Same here all the stuff on the rear rack does the job.

Plus I have a thin piece of plastic attached to top of rack which does for a lot of it. .

Skinny crud catchers on front frame for catching worst of it from front wheel.

Plus I can't go around looking all pristine anyhows.

I've got a name to live up to :smile:
 
One useful aspect to the newly fashionable "gravel" bikes; they tend to have clearance (and sometimes even fittings) for big tyres AND guards.
(I say "big" - not crazy-big modern specialist MTB big, but pleeeeeenty big enough for mixed-surface adventures).

Of course they all come with discs, and increasingly with hidden cables. And have to be bought with decimal currency, I expect ... <grumble>
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
One useful aspect to the newly fashionable "gravel" bikes; they tend to have clearance (and sometimes even fittings) for big tyres AND guards.
(I say "big" - not crazy-big modern specialist MTB big, but pleeeeeenty big enough for mixed-surface adventures).

Of course they all come with discs, and increasingly with hidden cables. And have to be bought with decimal currency, I expect ... <grumble>




Yeah right.. Hidden cables - I just don't trust em - no way of knowing what they're getting up to in there..

Have to say I quite like not having to change ground-down brake blocks every few hundred miles though..

No particular nostalgia for that job.. :rolleyes:
 
Have to say I quite like not having to change ground-down brake blocks every few hundred miles though..
Well, now that someone has decided this is a Topic for Discussion :P ...

I've never worn blocks down quickly; in hindsight I'm convinced this is due to buying decent aftermarket blocks for all the bikes that actually get ridden far. And I have witnessed riders replacing disc pads numerous times on long rides, often leading to frustrated trips to bike shops and other shenanigans. So I do not think that is any clear advantage for d**c brakes. And before anyone mentions it - rims are a consumable, and they don't wear out very quickly!
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
This was our 'big' trip - we're starting to dream about recreating it in a few years when our son is a little older (he's just 11 now).

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1mr&doc_id=2820&v=oa
Wow! That was a whole lot more interesting than the Arsenal v Newcastle game I was half watching until I clicked on your link :smile:.
It's got me thinking again of continental touring. Once this CV19 thing has lifted, and IF I can afford the post B-word travel insurance, I will have to get the ferry timetable and maps out 😄.
 
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Cathryn

Cathryn

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Wow! That was a whole lot more interesting than the Arsenal v Newcastle game I was half watching until I clicked on your link :smile:.
It's got me thinking again of continental touring. Once this CV19 thing has lifted, and IF I can afford the post B-word travel insurance, I will have to get the ferry timetable and maps out 😄.
What a compliment, thank you! I skimmed through it last night and thought how young we were! It was such a great month.
 
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