Tube Crowds 'at shocking levels'

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joolsybools

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Location
Scotland
The BBC report today of the delightfulness of the tube and the psychology of using it. I must say, aside from saving money, it was the 'dog eat dog' mentality that made me stop using the tube.

However, the traffic light system the London Assembly suggests sounds stupid and a complete waste of money. Any fool knows that if you get the tube at rush hour its going to be packed. Why are they suggesting such a thing?

I wonder if this will turn many more people to cycling?


"Shocking" levels of overcrowding on the Tube network means passengers often have to psych themselves up to travel, a London Assembly report has claimed. More than 80% of Tube users said they experienced "overcrowding which caused them discomfort", the study suggested.
It called for a "traffic-light" system in ticket halls so people can judge exactly how packed the trains will be.
Transport for London (TfL) said it was spending "billions" of pounds to increase space on the Tube network.

"This will mean more trains, able to carry more passengers, with faster journeys and larger stations," a spokesman said.
The report said some passengers developed a ruthless "dog-eat-dog" mentality when boarding trains because they knew it would be difficult to find a seat.

Sometimes they would grab seats at the expense of pregnant women and adults carrying children, it added.
Others came up with "coping strategies" to deal with the lack of space, such as listening to music or turning their backs on fellow passengers so they would not see the crowded carriage.
Some admitted they had to psych themselves up for the "struggle to clamber on board", while others said they had to make sacrifices - such as a loss of comfort - to ensure they arrived at work on time.
Caroline Pidgeon, the London Assembly member who chairs its transport committee, warned TfL that it must not be "complacent about finding ways to make the situation more bearable".
The report also criticised the "chaotic" upgrade of the Jubilee Line extension, which has resulted in sections of the line being closed for whole weekends several times in recent months.
"We are calling for new thinking on how Tube upgrade work is managed," Ms Pidgeon said.
"We cannot have a repeat of the way the Jubilee line upgrade works have been handled when it comes to upgrading other lines."
A TfL spokesman said the committee "rightly acknowledges that more and more people are travelling on the Tube, which is why it is so crucial that we deliver the much-needed improvements".
"We are spending billions to increase capacity on the Tube by 30% in what is the biggest investment in decades.
"This will mean more trains, able to carry more passengers, with faster journeys and larger stations."
He pointed to new trains on the Victoria Line, a revamped ticket hall at King's Cross underground station and the promise of air-cooled trains on the Metropolitan Line next year as "tangible improvements for customers".
The survey conducted by the assembly talked to 716 people in September.
The assembly also commissioned Andrew Irving Associates to conduct detailed focus groups with 57 commuters on how they coped during the rush hour.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8387560.stm
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
The Daily Mash, as usual, has a rather amusing take on this here.:eek:
 

brokenbetty

Über Member
Location
London
Before spending billions on increasing capacity, TfL should look at how to encourage more businesses to stagger working hours. The difference between 8.30 am and 9.30 am is ridiculous.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
brokenbetty said:
Before spending billions on increasing capacity, TfL should look at how to encourage more businesses to stagger working hours. The difference between 8.30 am and 9.30 am is ridiculous.

I'm not convinced that this would work, despite sounding like a great idea.

Take a look at the evening commute home, It's just as bad and this is not so "confined" by time with many people (like me, when I have to) hanging on at the office in a attempt to miss the crush and with many leaving at very varied times
 

davidg

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Location
London
the traffic light on the Central only being at red of course, I could save them a lot of money
 

Bandini

Guest
Rhythm Thief said:

Ooops! Good taste :rolleyes:
 

Alan Whicker

Senior Member
I'm not sure the the dog-eat-dog stuff is that common, though I'm sure it happens. I don't travel on the tube much anymore, but I'm always seeing greyhairs offered seats. And I bet everyone's been in the situation where they look at a woman and think "Is she pregnant ... or just fat?".

One of the Things Folk Up North Tell You Before You Move To That London is that people will step over you if you fall over/pass out/trip up on the Tube. As the clumsiest man alive I spend exactly 27% of my life being helped to my feet by strangers.

(but travel is much nicer on two wheels)
 

Rosie

New Member
I don't think the dog-eat-dog stuff happens particularly often - you get kn0bs of course, but they're everywhere anyway. Have never seen a pregnant woman left to stand and I have fainted on the tube and, whilst it was highly embarrassing, everyone was lovely!
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
'er indoors is now 7half months up the duff. She has had a to get the train to work a few times in the past couple of weeks. Amazingly enough people do give up their seats for her.
 
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