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400bhp

Guru
You read correctly.
However i stand by the fact i should report mobile phone users. Its up to the police where they set its priority and what comes from it.
If no one reports nothing will be done

Makes no context in isolation.

How old are you?
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
You never always learn from experience. None of us do.
well in this case i feel i have. Think of the always more of a generalization.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Don't be silly - we need to join the Jesus Cycling army.
I had the Jesus army try to recruit me once, despite me being an atheist. The deal breaker was they stated they were not allowed to have a TV or drink alcohol, what sort of religion is that:tongue: .
 

Kins

Über Member
He didnt say, he was very vague in the whole thing. Spent more time telling me off about reporting things to the police.
He in affect said dont report anything to the police as "Its not your place" "Let the police do the policing"
I challenged him alot on just about everything wrong he said like filming needing peoples permissions and so on and so forth but always deflected the question.
In the end it was left at well your parents know. My dad supports me in this matter.

Sorry, but I don't believe a word of it. Police gave you a formal harassment warning for that? Cobblers.

Harassment is a crime, but Dan has not committed it.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/stalking_and_harassment/#a02a

Quoting:

"Although harassment is not specifically defined it can include repeated attempts to impose unwanted communications and contacts upon a victim in a manner that could be expected to cause distress or fear in any reasonable person."

A single email to the alleged victim - in the terms described by Dan - just does not cut it.
Exactly! If he did give you a warning it wouldn't have legs if investigated. I think if anything actually occurred he gave you warning about having a warning.
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Sorry, but I don't believe a word of it. Police gave you a formal harassment warning for that? Cobblers.


Exactly! If he did give you a warning it wouldn't have legs if investigated. I think if anything actually occurred he gave you warning about having a warning.
Looking at what copper cyclists has said and the actual legislation.
I think it was just a scare tactic or was put across in a way i interpreted it wrong from what could happen to what has happened.
It will most likely go down to advise given to both sides no offence committed.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Sorry, but I don't believe a word of it. Police gave you a formal harassment warning for that? Cobblers.


Exactly! If he did give you a warning it wouldn't have legs if investigated. I think if anything actually occurred he gave you warning about having a warning.

That must be right, because to have the offence dealt with by a caution/formal warning, the offender must admit it, which Dan surely has not done.
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Final Update:
This morning the officer came round to my house unanounced.
I really dont know what happened to be frank now. I either got a warning or told that i could get one. Its all a mess , not made clear. Non the less to my understanding the driver is going to be talked to but thats it. Im fine with that. A huge hassle, would be better if the incident at hand was what was addressed. With doing something good im now in trouble as it was twisted against me. Ill not bother again. Just look stare and if they kill someone ,who cares right. The fact is where i went wrong was talking to the officer like he was my equal, this was not the case. The officer made comments which i knew where wrong and corrected him which he didn't like. So in turn being me i made it worse. Not to be repeated. Someone else can report them
I do respect the police and the people who work for the police alot, however in this case respect of the uniform was all i had.

The fact i came across this guy was a pure fluke, what i was actually looking for was these 2 cyclist police. The main reason was to talk with them as ive only seen them once in some years now. I had some general questions for them like how often they get out. In turn i lost them as i got stuck at a light and had to double back. Not going out and hunting for people like some fools seem to think.

Dan out!
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
hmmm think 400bhp might be on to something the Taxi response was very odd, I made the assumption it was a mickey take from them, or just a placating response. Maybe it was the response that Dan wanted, so he wrote it!
 

classic33

Leg End Member
I don't know what you did exactly, but a simple report to employer and police surely can't be harrassment? His comments about riding in the middle of the road and videoing and uploading to YouTube are clearly wrong and ignorant.

Offence of Harassment - Section 2
The elements of the section 2 offences are:
  • a course of conduct;
  • which amounts to harassment of another;
  • which the defendant knows, or ought to know amounts to harassment of another.
The defendant ought to know if his course of conduct amounts to harassment if a reasonable person in possession of the same information would think the course of conduct amounted to harassment of the other.
Section 7 defines a course of conduct as involving conduct on at least two occasions. Harassment is not defined, but includes causing alarm or distress, and conduct is defined as including speech.
Putting people in fear of violence: Section 4
The elements of the section 4 offence are:
  • a course of conduct
  • which causes another to fear that violence will be used against him
  • which the defendant knows or ought to know will cause another to fear that violence will be used against him.
The defendant ought to know that his course of conduct will cause another to fear that violence will be used against them if a reasonable person in possession of the same information would think that the course of conduct would cause the other so to fear on that occasion.
 
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