I wish you'd actually read what I wrote. I don't have a problem with
what they specced, after all a lot of bike choice is very personal. Its the fact that they are charging much much more than what the bike is actually worth. The genesis was maybe a poor example as its a more modern style tourer, I was just using it as an example of a similarly priced price which has much more expensive stuff on it.
And if they haven't passed on any cost saving (you seem to say that this is their motive) in other bits of the bike, but have just kept it as profit, well for me they are welcome to it. For the trouble they have saved me.
You would buy this Cinelli, even though you could buy an almost identical bike for half the price, just because you like how they spec it? Are you their advertising manager?
Have a look at the Jamis Aurora touring bike at
Evans - £680 and almost the bike as the Cinelli:
Jamis £680 (current sale price)
Frame Reynolds 520 double-butted chromoly main tubes with SST tubing diameters, double-tapered cromo stays, extended head tube with reinforced collars, forged dropouts, fender/rack eyelets and 3 spoke carrier
Fork Lugged semi-sloping chromoly with canti bosses, low-rider carrier braze-ons, forged dropout with fender eyelets
Front Derailleur Shimano Sora FDR3030 with 28.6mm alloy clamp
Rear Derailleur Shimano Sora RD-R3000GS
Shifters microSHIFT bar-end shifters with index or friction option, 27-speed
Chain set FSA Alpha Drive, 48/36/26T
Chain KMC Z99
Brakeset Tektro 992 forged alloy cantilevers with Tektro RL340 road brake levers
Handlebars Jamis Ergo, 6061 aluminum, 31.8
Stem Jamis adjustable threadless system (ATS), forged aluminum, 10˚ x 90mm (47/50), 105mm (53/55), 115mm (57/59/62). ATS shim length 100mm
Wheelset Alex ACE19 eyeleted double walled rims, 36H, Shimano Tiagra RS400 hubs with QR and 14g stainless steel spokes
Tyres Vittoria Randonneur with Double Shielding puncture protection, 700 x 32c
Saddle Jamis Touring Sport with pressure relief cut-out
Seatpost Jamis alloy micro-adjust, 27.2 x 300mm with cromo seat pin
Accessories Rear Rack, Front & Rear Mudguards
Cinelli £1199 (current sale price)
Frame Columbus Cromor - double butted top and down tubes
Fork Columbus Cr-Mo Steel 1-1/8"
Front Derailleur SHIMANO Sora
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore 9-speed
Shifters Microshift BS-T09 Bar End
Chain set FSA Alpha Drive Trekking, 26/36/48t, XS,S,M-170mm, L,XL,XXL-175mm
Chain KMC X9
Brakeset Tektro Cantilever
Handlebars Cinelli 31,8 mm Long Distance Traveller Sweep
Stem Cinelli 31,8 mm
Wheelset Alex Rims, Sora Hubs
Tyres Vittoria Randonneur Trail 700x38 mm
Saddle San Marco Ischia bootleg Custom
Seatpost Bootleg 31,6 mm
Accessories Tubus Front & Rear Racks, Front & Rear Mudguards
The only advantage that the cinelli has is the Tubus racks, which are very nice but don't suit everyone. Even adding them to the Jamis gets you a massive saving.
The only reason to buy the Cinelli is because of the name on the frame.
I also find your scathing comments on the wheels a bit odd as I have the impression from some of your other posts that you are something close to a credit card tourist and don't carry camping or cooking gear. For this I am sure they will be fine.
Firstly, there's no need to get personal, and the riding I do you have no idea about, so I would kindly ask you not to presume.
If you want to "slum" it more, then just get the extra/spare wheels for those trips into the unknown.
So although the spec you say is better for the more adventurous tourist, you admit the wheels aren't up to it? Which is exactly what I'm saying.
Actually looking at it that Jamis is an absolute steal at £680..... surely I don't need
another bike???