What do you use for ID when....

[Pblakeney]

Nonsense, if you arrive at A&E they treat you no matter who you are or what's wrong with you. They worry about who you are afterwards.

There is a difference between proper and adequate. You may have allergies.

 

[FishFright]

Most of the world disagrees with your opinion.

Source?

 

[Binky]

Personally I'd have zero objections if a national ID card became mandatory. Let's be honest, majority carry around a smartphone containing all sorts of personal information and banking stuff. Whenever you go online you leave a digital trail, especially if buying something.
Walk around most streets and there'll be cctv either offical ones or people doorbells or private cctv.

So objections on basis of privacy seem a bit pointless. However, just my opinion. Others may vary.

 

[YMFB]

Source?

The number of countries that require id that I’ve visited

 

[YMFB]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card_policies_by_country

 

[FishFright]

The number of countries that require id that I’ve visited

All of which have much lower crime ?

Much of the clamour for compulsory I.D. is related to reduced crime but I've yet to see any proof.

 

[wiggydiggy]

....you don't have a passport or driving licence?

Mindful of the unhelpful advice I had when tried to address this in 2022 (from banks, FCA etc), what I'm looking for is a system that will give me access to what I need when I need it, without having to carry a filing cabinet full of utility bills everywhere, and without having to wait until it's too late.

Someone (I forget who) told me that you could get ID cards from Government Gateway, but when I registered an account it wouldn't let me log in, so I gave up. Now, three years later I don't have a licence, and as I was refused access to my own money by the jobsworths at the bank yesterday, I no longer have the option of just giving up.

So far as I can tell, Government Gateway is now defunct and replaced by Gov.Uk One Login, but I have no real idea whether that'll get me an ID card, and even if it does, it isn't on Lloyds' list of acceptable ID anyway.

I'd suggest getting a passport, a relative of mine recently lost their licence due to health so before they did they got a passport. Just made it easier for them to have one for things like banks that they previously would have used their licence for. The GovID was no use to them as they have no internet and have barely used a computer ever.

They used PostOffice check and send which cost a bit more but was guaranteed.

Full guide here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-first-adult-passport/print

 

[briantrumpet]

If you're renewing a passport i don't think the new photo needs to be signed by a third party. I don't recall having to do that on my last passport renewal.

Indeed, you don't need a signature, as long as your appearance hasn't changed more significantly than normal ageing. With the new *very* slick system, the application website tells you if your digitally-submitted photo is OK. (My new passport came in six days after applying.)

 

[glasgowcyclist]

The number of countries that require id that I’ve visited

That only reflects the number of countries which enforce compulsory ID cards, not how popular the system is with the people.

 

[sungod]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card_policies_by_country

the obligation to have an id card is not he same as being required to carry an id card

that list of places includes a large number with a track record of oppression or worse, it's hardly a recommendation

 

[YMFB]

Not being popular is of no interest. As a country we put up with a level of crime, much of which is not reported.

In my opinion having people who are supposed to be here and not involved in crime are more important. Statistics and graphs can be manipulated to show what “facts” are needed.

IF the carrying of ID helps annoy/inconvenience people that don’t belong or are involved in crime bring it on. In reality as can be seen by this thread for all practical purposes those going about their lawful business require it.

I've just spent months proving who we are and what we do for my family businesses Spanish banker. As I have learned if we were to change bank there would be many more hurdles to get over.

Put another way, what have you got to hide if you don’t want ID.

 

[Once a Wheeler]

It seems to me that the obligation to hold a standard government-issued ID card is a good idea. There is no need to oblige people to carry it all the time. It just saves so many administrative hassles and it would be an important simplification to every-day living.
I suspect the pro- and anti- ID card camps are based on deep-seated feelings of I have ID so the government protects me and I have ID so the government can get me. Both positions are difficult to fully rationalize but in a world where proof of ID has to be managed somehow, I prefer government documents to snazzy utility bills.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I need to get proper i.d. as my humble bus pass just doesn't cut it for certain things! 🤣

 

[Smokin Joe]

Put another way, what have you got to hide if you don’t want ID.

Anyone who's got to my age and never had anything to hide really should have got out more.

And I don't need ID because I already know who I am I am and it's no one else's business unless I chose to tell them or they can legally demand it.

 

[gbb]

As my passport expired 2020 and I steadfastly had held onto my paper driving licence...at the point I needed to show ID for something I can't remember now...it caused all sorts of aggro. I tried the ID card route but just got lost in it all, perhaps it's always been a problematic system.
Eventually I just applied for a new photographic licence, job done.
One other thing I have, not sure if it's usable as ID for everything, was a concessionary bus pass, yhat was quite quick and easy to apply for