What will the long term effects of the virus? Will something never be the same?

[postman]

Couples will need something to do while they are self-isolating.

Me and Mrs P are doing gardening together.

 

[postman]

Twelve months it will be a distant memory,remembered only by those who have lost loved ones or their jobs.It's the way it goes.

 

[Drago]

Lots more preppers. Not the loony right wing tooled up ready to repel marauding hordes preppers (like me), but normal folk keeping several months worth of food and supplies at home.

 

[Notafettler]

First off it can’t increase at this present time as there are only so many drivers, in so many vans, you can’t just get extra vans from a hire company as these are specialised vehicles, built to order with a refrigerated section and an ambient section, there are companies who supply the vans, but their hire fleet won’t be huge as they are mainly to provide cover for servicing/breakdowns, next supermarkets aren’t going any where, their distribution centres are huge, where I am Morissons are down the road, they occupy approximately one third of an industrial estate here alone, Aldi have 3 , one in County Durham, one in South Yorkshire & a new one in Derbyshire, Asda have a huge presence between Wakefield & Castleford, this is in the north alone, they are raking money in hand over fist as people strip the shelves bare, which is why they aren’t stopping it.
when this is all sorted out we will just go back to how things were before, no one will change the way they shop

Honest things change. The fact that delivery is available proves that. More and more people are buying there food shopping online and will continue to. Eventually they will start closing shops. And why are you quoting me in the cheap Chinese handle bar thread?!

 

[Notafettler]

Indeed. Our local village pub is up 'for sale' £12,500 up front, £17,500 per year rental, also payable up front, so that's 30 gees before you even get the keys on a pub that doesn't take £1000 all day on a brisk Saturday. And the management company wonder why tenants barely last a year before quitting.

If they set the rent high enough so that tenants can't make a profit they can then get change of use. Knock it down and sell the land for houses.

 

[Notafettler]

I'd certainly like to think so, however under "natural conditions" this has been on the cards for decades but the government continue to pull out all the stops to protect the asset values of their cronies / buy votes from existing "home owners" and party donations from house builders.

I firmly believe we need / deserve a significant house price correction, however the powers that be clearly think the opposite and do everything they can to maintain rampant house price inflation. That said, on this occasion the situation is so economically-cataclysmic that even they might reach the limit of their powers in trying to maintain the status quo; especially given the raft of measures introduced after 2009 (interest rates can't go much lower, can they?).

Have you looked at share prices for house builders and estate agents? Makes grim reading for their shareholders, although they've been speculatively over-valued for a long time and also falling for a good while with no correlating decline in house prices.

IMO all bets are off as the world has become such an utterly counter-intuitive, arse-backwards place nothing seems to make sense any more.

I am going to go with something called supply and demand equals higher prices and nothing to do with paranoid delusions of government conspiracy.

 

[Notafettler]

I don't know what will happen, but what I HOPE for:

A simpler life where people don't want 20 different pasta, 10 varieties of tomato and so on.

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I see nothing wrong with 10 different types of tomatoes. I am growing 7 at least this year. You do know that is a major complaint about the supermarkets not offering choice, just bland Tom's?

 

[classic33]

Some of this is repeating what some areas went through 19 years ago.

Whole areas closed off, no entry to open countryside. Disinfectant "mats" at the entrances to many places. Whole families confined to their property, often with a police guard/presence at the entrance.

We'd the cleanest roads in years. People panic bought food and cleaning materials. Yet by the end of the year, nearly all of that was forgotten. We'd returned to our old ways.

Travelling to certain countries wasn't always possible. Because of the areas I'd been in I was very nearly turned around at the port of arrival. If I'd been turned around/refused entry, there'd have been no ill will at this. Would I have wanted to be the person who took the disease into another country?

Working on the census at the time, we'd a secondary job of reporting any breaking of the rules in place, to a separate number and office.

 

[DaveReading]

Twelve months it will be a distant memory,remembered only by those who have lost loved ones or their jobs.It's the way it goes.

Everyone loves an optimist ...

 

[CharlesF]

I see nothing wrong with 10 different types of tomatoes. I am growing 7 at least this year. You do know that is a major complaint about the supermarkets not offering choice, just bland Tom's?

I wasn’t criticising you! Nor was I wanting a bland tomato, which I never said in the first place. The point is that we have too much of everything, we all need to live a simpler life is the fact to understand.

 

[slowmotion]

I wasn’t criticising you! Nor was I wanting a bland tomato, which I never said in the first place. The point is that we have too much of everything, we all need to live a simpler life is the fact to understand.

You're right. Quite a lot of people have too much bog paper.

 

[classic33]

You're right. Quite a lot of people have too much bog paper.

And/Or pilchards

 

[slowmotion]

And/Or pilchards

My tins of fish were just a wise virgin's preparation for a wide range of possible inconveniences..... delinquent asteroids, nuclear winters, North Atlantic tsunamis, The Rapture etc.
They had nothing to do with panic buying!

 

[classic33]

My tins of fish were just a wise virgin's preparation for a wide range of possible inconveniences..... delinquent asteroids, nuclear winters, North Atlantic tsunamis, The Rapture etc.
They had nothing to do with panic buying!

And then you got hold of their pilchards?

 

[slowmotion]

And then you got hold of their pilchards?

I wish I could report that I charmed them out of their pilchards but I would be telling an untruth. I bought them online from Pilchards R Us.