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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
You heed to develop more insight into your condition:

Personality is the particular combination of emotional, attitudinal, and behavioral response patterns of an individual.

Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction,

Aspergers is not determinant of personality but it is very influential.

The 18 year old son of a friend is also on the asperger's spectrum, but has a very clear understanding of how it influences his behaviour but has a good circle for freinds his own age and has just started a degree in politics and international relations
Aspergers does affect your personality. It doesnt just influence the social side of things.

With me, I have a tendancy to be very agressive (moreso in primary school). It also means that I have strong emotions (get upset easily). It also affects my intelligence (the reason I think I am right).
With my brother (also Autistic) he is even more emotional than me and gets upset and annoyed that he cannot have his own way all the time. He dislikes change and has interests in TV and gadgets. He gets distracted very easily and has a very slim chance of doing well in life (I mean family wise). He needs a lot of encouragement to do things that he needs to do or doesnt have an interest in.

Autism does affect your personality and is not just affecting social interaction (I can happily socialise with strangers).
 

PK99

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Location
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Aspergers does affect your personality. It doesnt just influence the social side of things.

With me, I have a tendancy to be very agressive (moreso in primary school). It also means that I have strong emotions (get upset easily). It also affects my intelligence (the reason I think I am right).
With my brother (also Autistic) he is even more emotional than me and gets upset and annoyed that he cannot have his own way all the time. He dislikes change and has interests in TV and gadgets. He gets distracted very easily and has a very slim chance of doing well in life (I mean family wise). He needs a lot of encouragement to do things that he needs to do or doesnt have an interest in.

Autism does affect your personality and is not just affecting social interaction (I can happily socialise with strangers).

Matthew, you really do seem confused; previously you made a clear separation and said:

Autism might indirectly affect me (reading out numberplates and noticing more than the average person would), but it doesnt affect the way I act on the roads. That is down to my personality
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Matthew, you really do seem confused; previously you made a clear separation
My first response was more specific to being on the roads. The second response is more general and just gives an insight into my life as a whole and how Autism affects me. The second quote is to clarify what I was quoting.
 

Hicky

Guru
I had a aspergers lad in my lab(2nd year uni physics masters) last year hence anyone who had contact with him had to do an awareness course on how best to handle his needs and such.
Academically superb, socially very blunt and unaware of the impact his behaviour had on others UNLESS told directly and discreetly(he struggled to pickup on social cues and body language, his record keeping and attention to detail was terrible also) .

As you've said how it has affected your personality, you must realise how YOUR personality is affecting your social interactions and not use it as an excuse for your actions of behaviour as I have said you'll end up in a situation you can't handle despite what you may think.

Dyslexia , can't read too good = get out clause for being lazy(a close friend has just passed a nursing degree, his dyslexia is severe....he simply has to read thing repeatedly for things to stick. )
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Aspergers aside, there is mucho TEEN year old attitudes here as well. The crap my nieces and nephews come out with, all similar ages ! :laugh:

Best course, don't say anything, then the 'other' person might apologise if they have made a mistake. It also stops you getting wound up as it's really not good for stress and most importantly, it's distracting and can ruin a ride. Let it go, and enjoy the bike.

Think, folk haven't seen you, ease up near peds, and you'll have a much better ride.

Get rid of the camera and horn for a while. Way too much sh1te for sticking on a road bike anyway.
 
With me, I have a tendancy to be very agressive (moreso in primary school). It also means that I have strong emotions (get upset easily). It also affects my intelligence (the reason I think I am right).

If you're unwilling to modify your behaviour Matthew, sooner or later you'll upset the wrong person and you will end up getting hurt. It's only a matter of time.

Nobody on here wants to see that and I'm sure we all have your best interests at heart but I fear it will take someone giving you a slap for the penny to drop.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Nobody on here wants to see that and I'm sure we all have your best interests at heart but I fear it will take someone giving you a slap for the penny to drop.

Let's just hope for Matthews sake that it IS just a slap. You hear and read far too often of these trivial incidents resulting in the use of weapons to inflict serious injury. Or worse.
 

400bhp

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I had a aspergers lad in my lab(2nd year uni physics masters) last year hence anyone who had contact with him had to do an awareness course on how best to handle his needs and such.
Academically superb, socially very blunt and unaware of the impact his behaviour had on others UNLESS told directly and discreetly(he struggled to pickup on social cues and body language, his record keeping and attention to detail was terrible also) .

As you've said how it has affected your personality, you must realise how YOUR personality is affecting your social interactions and not use it as an excuse for your actions of behaviour as I have said you'll end up in a situation you can't handle despite what you may think.

Dyslexia , can't read too good = get out clause for being lazy(a close friend has just passed a nursing degree, his dyslexia is severe....he simply has to read thing repeatedly for things to stick. )

Oh, bollox. I think I have it.:eek:
 

Linford

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Positive reenforcement is by far the best way to teach any animal including us to do anything with any degree of lasting success. If not they would train horses and sniffer dogs with a lit match. People are the same. Punishment doesn't work in the long term and is even less effective in humans because of our ability to reason. It offers no deeper understanding therfor results will be unreliable. That's what I reckon anyway.

Weeeeeellllll, that depends on whether they think they can get away with something.

Take for instance horses, cattle, sheep, etc and electric fences.

Stick a horse in a field with a wooden post and rail fencing arrangement, and they will after a couple of hours/days start to test it by leaning on it until part of it breaks, or simply jump it.
Do the same thing with an electric fence tape or wire which is not turned on and they will first test it by either leaning on it or sniffing it, and if they figure it is not live, will just march straight through it - which is dangerous as it could get tangled around a leg and cut a tendon (which would result in them having to be put down).

One of our liveries is a big horse and he knows it - 650kg ish and roughly 17 hands. He has marched through 3 post and rail fences in the last month in the fields and just snapped them at the base (at our cost)
I had a fault with the electric fence energiser which meant that there was no voltage to the fence tape, and he just stepped through it. This was really bad because he would get into another pen with another gelding and they would start kicking six bells out of each other, and with all the fencing down on the floor, it all became a real danger to them which resulted in them all having to be kept in the stables for days on end, and then only out with very limited turnout in rotation - which also put the hay and bedding cost up as they have no access to grazing, and trash the space which is their box - and then make me have to do loads of trips more to get more in.

I got the fence energiser mended last week, and he tried it on when put behind the fence tape, and then did a bit of a 'moonwalk' when he got a shock off it (really fkin scary when something that big starts charging around at 40 mph). He tested the fence half a dozen times in 5 minutes before he decided that it really wasn't worth it as they do give a big zap, and since then he has respected it and stays clear of the fence - peace and order is again restored, and he and the other horses get to stay out all day now :smile:

You can only apply positive re enforcement when you are around to apply it. Whey they are left to their own devices, you need to ensure they respect the boundaries which you set up for them - or have very deep pockets.
 

Andrew_Culture

Internet Marketing bod
I got the fence energiser mended last week, and he tried it on when put behind the fence tape, and then did a bit of a 'moonwalk' when he got a shock off it (really fkin scary when something that big starts charging around at 40 mph). He tested the fence half a dozen times in 5 minutes before he decided that it really wasn't worth it as they do give a big zap, and since then he has respected it and stays clear of the fence - peace and order is again restored, and he and the other horses get to stay out all day now :smile:


So Matt, what you need to remember from this post is that you must always check your electric fences are operating correctly, you can do so by any of the following methods:
  • grabbing a fistful of wet grass and lightly laying a few tips of the grass on the fence, if your hand sort of 'ticks and jolts' then the fence is live
  • listen to the fence, is it chit chit chitting? Don't get your ear too close to the fence, although it would answer your 'is it on' question pretty quickly
  • wee on the fence
  • lick the fence (but make sure you don't do this after weeing on the fence, unless you like that sort of thing, in which case wait till after dark so we don't have to see it)
  • ask a passer by to 'hold this for a moment please'
 

Scruffmonster

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London/Kent
My first response was more specific to being on the roads. The second response is more general and just gives an insight into my life as a whole and how Autism affects me. The second quote is to clarify what I was quoting.

Matthew, I know everyone has a right to free speech and all that jazz, but half the time you really shouldn't say anything until you truly know what you speak about.

You say that you're autistic. I imagine this has been diagnosed medically, there have been tests and such.

Yet, how much do you really know about it? Maybe it's just not coming across very well here, but you don't seem to have grasped some of the very fundamental foundation points of the condition.

I strongly urge you to scoop up as many books as you can, there are many excellent ones out there, some wordy ones written by professionals, some amazing first hand experiences, there's a lot out there.

You need to round out your knowledge of yourself, probably more than the average 18 year old does. That sucks, but it's pretty essential.

You'll read things, some will make you think 'Damn, I'm glad that's not me'... other cases will make you think 'I wish it could be that simple for me'.... But what's essential is for you to LEARN.

All of that time you spend downloading, editing, uploading videos of you shouting at cars for coming a whisker too close to you... they could be spent reading, learning, looking at why those things happen to you.

Because the absolute truth is; Your character/personality is causing you to have far too many infractions with people in life and you're always pointing the finger outwards. You really need to learn yourself, admit blame, and start looking at long term prevention. Not on a case by case basis, reviewing 'evidence' with people on internet forums, but in real life. Keep a journal, write, read, talk to people.

It's no good seeking some weird kind of 'fame' with all this video nonsense, it's not solving any of your problems and you really need to realise that.

EDIT: Also, stop saying 'I know' at every juncture. You don't. And that's ok. That's how it's supposed to be.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Matthew, please read this story on the BBC Scotland pages.

Not meaning to scare you (or maybe I am, hoping that you take on board the fact that there are nutters out there who don't stop to think about their actions), but this is an example of how a seemingly trivial incident can escalate. This all started just because someone took umbrage at another driver flashing their headlights at him because his fog lights were on. A really sad incident.
 

Crankarm

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Location
Nr Cambridge
Matthew, please read this story on the BBC Scotland pages.

Not meaning to scare you (or maybe I am, hoping that you take on board the fact that there are nutters out there who don't stop to think about their actions), but this is an example of how a seemingly trivial incident can escalate. This all started just because someone took umbrage at another driver flashing their headlights at him because his fog lights were on. A really sad incident.

Stabbed to death with a fishing knife. Sobering stuff.
 
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