Wirral to Deeside help

[Crackle]

Day off today and weather was predicted to be okay, so thought I'd try the route.

Its as said very bumpy and after last nights rain a bit muddy, but okay if you follow the tractor trails. Came out opposite Starbucks drive thru, so saw this as an omen to stop and let the white knuckle subside

Interesting to know you can get through then, though it sounds a bit 'adventurous' on a road bike.

 

[dodgy]

There's also another route through, it goes from Denhall Lane and goes through the MOD firing range and RSPB land across the marshes I've done it once, but it's a PITA.

 

[The Brewer]

Don't think I'd do it again after a night of rain, but in dryer weather it might be better. Had to give way to a couple of tractors who just waved.
Sign posted as a public footpath at the start in Puddington and was ready to act dumb and blame the garmin if I got stopped, but you could bumpily drive a car down the route.

With the excellent cycle routes in Cheshire it just seem odd that theres not a better route to Sealand and route 5 from Neston, god knows enough traffic passes that way

 

[The Brewer]

There's also another route through, it goes from Denhall Lane and goes through the MOD firing range and RSPB land across the marshes I've done it once, but it's a PITA.

Tried to use that one the other week, but it now sign posted 'Private land but owner permits walkers'

 

[dodgy]

There is a campaign to have it opened up but apparently it's the RSPB that are the biggest hurdle, I heard they won't engage in talks about it.

 

[Crackle]

There's also another route through, it goes from Denhall Lane and goes through the MOD firing range and RSPB land across the marshes I've done it once, but it's a PITA.

Blimey, you're a braver man than me Gungha Din

 

[dodgy]

Blimey, you're a braver man than me Gungha Din

Hehe, I remember having to clamber over the locked gate at the far end by using the nearby grass embankment. Feet got all wet in the long grass and I spent the next 5 hours with freezing cold feet.

This is a serious point though, everyone who's a keen cyclist on Wirral knows about the problems of getting into Wales, I'd like to see an answer to it. But the route I put up further above is I think, the best compromise, if it wasn't I wouldn't be riding it!

 

[junglegusset]

Blimey, you're a braver man than me Gungha Din

I used to do this a fair bit, you can hear if they are firing, they seem to fly the red flags whether there's shooting going on or not. I did it recently, the biggest problem is the poor state of the road and the lifting of bike over fences and gates. I'm sure it used to be easier. Somebody told me that there was a plan to build a track down here, this would be a dream come true for me. RSPB stopped it eh? We'll I will not be supporting them anymore.

 

[Crackle]

This is a serious point though, everyone who's a keen cyclist on Wirral knows about the problems of getting into Wales, I'd like to see an answer to it. But the route I put up further above is I think, the best compromise, if it wasn't I wouldn't be riding it!

Yeah, that way, ncn5 or the first bit of the 494 off the 540 and then scoot off past the Sealand base on the minor road next to the 494 and there's a few cycle paths there as well which I've never explored.

Getting off the Wirral is a pita any way on a bike. There's always some compromise.

 

[subaqua]

Getting off the Wirral is a pita any way on a bike. There's always some compromise.

is more like it. I used to hate coming back from Hoylake to N Wales ( MANWEB training college) when I was an apprentice and had just got a car. even the M56 to Drome improvements haven't improved it much. Good Friday into Wales was always fun to watch as we whizzed about on bikes.

 

[lejogger]

I really enjoy getting the train up to the Wirral and cycling home via the old railway lines, its just one stretch that's with heavy traffic that I need to cut out and make the ride more pleasant.

I come down the west side of the Wirral, West Kirby to Neston, on to Burton then hit heavy traffic from Two Mills to Sealand where I meet up with National route 5 and on to Chester.

Anyone have a better route from Burton to Deeside, not fun on dual carriageways

When we (the Sunlight) go out to Wales from Two Mills we always drop down the never ending lane and down the new cyclepath to Sealand. If there's a better way for road bikes then I'm sure we'd use it. I've mapped it here
Doesn't avoid the Chester High Rd obviously, but might help. If we're going to Deeside to go down the coast then we do this or alternatively keep on the B5441 straight through Garden City and Queensferry if heading up to Hawarden.

 

[dodgy]

When we (the Sunlight) go out to Wales from Two Mills we always drop down the never ending lane and down the new cyclepath to Sealand. If there's a better way for road bikes then I'm sure we'd use it. I've mapped it here
Doesn't avoid the Chester High Rd obviously, but might help. If we're going to Deeside to go down the coast then we do this or alternatively keep on the B5441 straight through Garden City and Queensferry if heading up to Hawarden.

That's exactly the route I mapped out above, it's the way all experienced Wirral based cyclists would go, there is no better alternative. I think subaqua was just trying to be helpful when he mapped out a route using a web-based map, they may look like rideable roads/tracks, but if they were - we'd all be using them like you say. You can't beat local knowledge.

 

[lejogger]

That's exactly the route I mapped out above, it's the way all experienced Wirral based cyclists would go, there is no better alternative. I think subaqua was just trying to be helpful when he mapped out a route using a web-based map, they may look like rideable roads/tracks, but if they were - we'd all be using them like you say. You can't beat local knowledge.

Ah, sorry Dodgy... I forgot to check out your link.

 

[dodgy]

Ah, sorry Dodgy... I forgot to check out your link.

Not at all, just glad that all these years I haven't been going the wrong way into Wales

 

[The Brewer]

Thanks guys Lejoggers and Dodgy route is the way I'll try next time