20 mph speed limit.

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albion

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Location
South Tyneside
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-a-20mph-speed-limit-why-and-what-will-happen
'The introduction of a 20mph speed limit on most residential roads across Wales from Sunday is proving one of the most controversial the Labour-run Welsh government has ever put in place'

And why?
https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/servi... British,and protect pedestrians and cyclists.

Lots of useful data there for road safety purposes.
 
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dicko

Guru
Location
Derbyshire
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-a-20mph-speed-limit-why-and-what-will-happen
'The introduction of a 20mph speed limit on most residential roads across Wales from Sunday is proving one of the most controversial the Labour-run Welsh government has ever put in place'

And why?
https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/services/parking-roads-and-travel/roads/road-safety-in-portsmouth/#:~:text=Portsmouth was the first British,and protect pedestrians and cyclists.

Lots of useful data there for road safety purposes.

Excellent video about cycling at night.
 
We don't listen to whining from shoplifters or burglars about efforts to restricted their law breaking, and neither society nor politicians should listen to road criminals complaining about efforts to rein in their offending.

That is the best thing I've read here today.

Owning a car is not a right and some drivers are temperamentally unsuited to owning one.

If it was trivially easy to lose your driving licence or have your vehicle crushed people might be more careful.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
And some rigidly enforced punitive measures with which to enforce it.

I would suggest an automatic 28 day driving ban in addition to the points, because with some actual and meaningful consequences there is a firm incentive to comply. Those that don't get relieved of the right and the world becomes a safer place for 28 days.

Just a shame that the new mandatory speed limiter legislation has been so badly watered down it'll be all but pointless,
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/23790158.unacceptable-pollution-level-rise-glasgow-city-centre/

What I noticed when this topic came about, was that overtaking cars heavily pollute in their acceleration to 30mph, prior to their reaching the 20mph average of near all other road traffic.
So, surely, a 20mph limit, is one step towards a Glasgow solution.

Pollution in Glasgow has been a big problem because in the mid ‘60s they built the M8 motorway right through the heart of it. It was also an act of civic vandalism to destroy thousands of homes and historic buildings.

Carrying upwards of 150,000 vehicles per day, it passes right alongside 50% of the boundary of the LEZ, so pollution levels could still be a lot lower if it weren’t for the motorway. And bear in mind that our LEZ is tiny, at just 1 square mile.

We have had a 20mph in the same zone for a few years but that is widely ignored.
 
Saw them stopping bikes near the Corn Exchange, where the two-way cycle lane has replaced the road, on Thursday night.
Didn't see any being seized.

The person that mentioned it to me said (alledgegly) there were Immigration officers involved, but thats for the other place!

I don't go into Leeds as much as I used to, but its easily noticed just how many delivery riders there are now.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Just imagine if criminals were treated as leniently as the perpetrators of road crime.

The baying in the media would really be something spectacular if thieves could escape punishment by going on a shoplifting awareness course for a few hours, and thieves aren't killing 5 and seriously injuring 80 every single day.
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
The person that mentioned it to me said (alledgegly) there were Immigration officers involved, but thats for the other place!

I don't go into Leeds as much as I used to, but its easily noticed just how many delivery riders there are now.
I noticed there wasn't as many outside around teatime, and wondered why.
 
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