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Close pass on an 8 year old...

Discussion in 'Family and Recreational Cycling' started by Mister Paul, 29 Oct 2016.

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  1. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

  2. Reiver

    Reiver Astronaut

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    If a driver is that concerned that a cyclist is not wearing a helmet then they should take even more care.

    As for the driver of the Range Rover; if they didn't see the child they should loose their licence, if they did see the child and choose to pass that close whilst still cutting in, then they should loose their licence - and if that driver has deep concerns about young children wearing helmets and then still choose to drive like that then they should also loose their liberty.

    Even if I see a child of that age riding on the pavement i still slow down, move away from the pavement and double my concentration.
  3. summerdays

    summerdays Cycling in the sun Staff Member

    Poor kid, I think they coped really well. But it would only have taken a nervous wobble for the car to have hit her!
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  4. S-Express

    S-Express Guest

    I doubt if anyone will lose their licence, unfortunately.

    Helmet issue aside, I would question the wisdom of putting an 8yo on the road when she clearly has a distinct lack of riding skill.
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  5. Lots of things going wrong here.

    When Jannie is in front of me and we come to a pinch point like that in the clip, I move out and so that car would not have got past me at that point. The pratt of a driver may have gone over the top of me, but that's another matter.

    Posted by Tim Lennon, the Secretary of the Cycling Embassy of Great Britain and the first thing he does is to make a hand gesture. However innocent it may look I don't think it is a good idea.

    As for the helmet debate. I have not seen anyone make it clear that there is no legal requirement to wear a helmet but there is a legal requirement to leave a safe distance when passing.

    What good would a plastic hat do against a range rover?
  6. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    I took my cycling proficiency test aged 8. I was riding on the roads before and after that... but definitely had more road sense afterwards. And we didn't need helmets in the 70s
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  7. Reiver

    Reiver Astronaut

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    I thought she was riding quite well, a little too close to the kerb, and the bit of a wobble was down to the sunken man hole cover, the driver of the car about to pass should have spotted that man hole cover and predicted that wobble, it could have caused her to come off the bike.

    It must have been obvious to the range rover driver that this was a young child and as such more unpredictable and more vulnerable than an adult cyclist, the range rover driver was reckless in that impatient overtake.
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  8. alicat

    alicat Guru

    Shocking! She was riding really well and the second driver was a numpty, playing follow my leader. I see it all too often and the driving gets worse the further the drivers are down the line.
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  9. Milkfloat

    Milkfloat Veteran

    There are a large number of morons in the world and to be clear I do not count the little girl or her father as one of them. The majority of commentators on a supposed cycling website though............
  10. subaqua

    subaqua Guru

    And pray tell where she should obtain the skill of riding in traffic ? By magic? Osmosis? Or actually doing it and having the knowledge that drivers won't drive like nobbers because they will be prosecuted properly for offending.

    Because we know it is not possible to put segregated lanes everywhere .
  11. S-Express

    S-Express Guest

    When I say riding skill, I mean basic bike handling skills. Learn them first, then go ride in traffic after.
  12. slowmotion

    slowmotion Quite dreadful

    lost somewhere
    What is it about Richmond that makes some people drive so appallingly?
  13. Pat "5mph"

    Pat "5mph" A kilogrammicaly challenged woman

    This popped up earlier on my fb.
    I think the wee one was riding well.
    I take kids and beginner adults out for rides: we try not to go on the roads, but if it's inevitable I and my co-leaders will ride side by side, never mind the inevitable aggravation from some drivers.
    I have to say most drivers are patient when they see kids riding, this driver is obviously an exception that should really not be allowed to drive like that.
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  14. subaqua

    subaqua Guru

    Rich entitled nobbers
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  15. T4tomo

    T4tomo Über Member

    Agree she was riding well and dad was doing sensible thing by riding in a decent position out from the kerb. You learn road sense by riding on roads. RR driver was a nobber.
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