Cyclists belong in the gutter
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Heltor Chasca
Out-riding the Black Dog
Thank you. I consider myself a better person now so thank you. My bigotry was unfounded.
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Which age group is the worst offender per road mile? The elderly might be relatively low in absolute numbers by virtue of driving only 600 yards a week, to Church and back. Can't get enough of that communion wine 
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Oh aye lad. Pensioner me, but while I'm old I'm refusing to become decrepit.
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
I could tell you a funny story about how I crashed (and burned) relating to that quote, but... I'm not going to. All I will say is that an attractive French woman was involved. <sighs wistfully>
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
But all 94 year olds have knew thing in common - they were all 16/17 years old once.
KnackeredBike
I do my own stunts
In hospital we quite often make referrals to the DVLA about whether someone is medically fit to drive. We had an old boy in who could barely see a few metres but was still driving. Another day a 280kg patient again driving, I am sure not in proper control of the car.
Profpointy
Legendary Member
To be fair though, that is fewer accidents than most people
KnackeredBike
I do my own stunts
[QUOTE 4711084, member: 9609"]44 stone (thats like a quarter ton) ? that is seriously big, could he walk? what sort of car was it ?[/QUOTE]
Indeed, quite extraordinary. He was capable of walking but didn't if there was an easier alternative. Driving a standard medium sized family car. The sheer logistics of even having him in hospital was quite interesting/expensive.
Indeed, quite extraordinary. He was capable of walking but didn't if there was an easier alternative. Driving a standard medium sized family car. The sheer logistics of even having him in hospital was quite interesting/expensive.
Which age group is the worst offender per road mile? The elderly might be relatively low in absolute numbers by virtue of driving only 600 yards a week, to Church and back. Can't get enough of that communion wine
We had a Rolls Royce locally when I was a kid.
Bought by a rich eccentric in 1926, it used to be brought out, polished, driven to the Church a mile away, driven back, cleaned and put back in the Garage.
When the guy died in the mid 70s and it was sold - everything was virtually original and in almost show room condition
Which age group is the worst offender per road mile? The elderly might be relatively low in absolute numbers by virtue of driving only 600 yards a week, to Church and back. Can't get enough of that communion wine
More seriously
The measure is often used to adjust when the answer achieved is not what was desired
For instance if you have two neighbours who commute to the same place, one by bike and one by car.... and have had one accident
The number of journeys is equal, as is the milage, but journey time will benefit the car as it has less accidents per hour
Put in a cycle track that is more direct and shortens the cycle journey, now you can have time equal, and journeys equal... but milage is again in favour of the car as it has less accidents per mile
In both examples the other factors would show the accident per unit to be equal
I remember PS of S@fespeed working out that cyclists killed more people than cars if you used total UK milage. This of course included milage on motorways, dual carriageways where cyclists were excluded, and the long distance nature of commercial drivers. He also used urban estimates for cycle milage IIRC
It did however make the deaths caused per mile travelled higher for cyclists
Drago
Legendary Member
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- Suburban Poshshire
I have no desirable answer in either direction. *If* old people are, say, involved in 50% less accident than the young, but drive only 1/10th the mileage (random numbers picked from thin air to illustrate a position, nothing more) then clearly to encounter one on the road is a statistically potentially a much more dangerous proposition.
I don't fall into either camp, and I feel responsible for my own driving, not someone else who just happens to be a similar age. Nevertheless, as an intellectual exercise I am interested, not as a means to suddenly turn the young or the old into slavering highway murderers.
I don't fall into either camp, and I feel responsible for my own driving, not someone else who just happens to be a similar age. Nevertheless, as an intellectual exercise I am interested, not as a means to suddenly turn the young or the old into slavering highway murderers.
BrumJim
Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
- Location
- Selly Oak, Birmingham
Blinking 30-49 year-olds. Should be shot at birth!
John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
- Location
- Crewe
[QUOTE 4711035, member: 43827"]I was cycling along a country lane a few months ago when a pit bike ridden by two kids, must have been around 16/17 years old, swerved in towards me and the passenger tried to kick me off my bike as they overtook me.
You don't see 94 year olds doing that very often.
Funny old world.[/QUOTE]
A pal of mine was forced off his bike by an old chap (estimated 60-70) who told him that he should be riding further left, and emphasised the message by moving his car gradually into the space that my pal was currently occupying, until he was forced to stop.
Although the danger from the 30-49 group more accurately reflects my own experience, I must say.
You don't see 94 year olds doing that very often.
Funny old world.[/QUOTE]
A pal of mine was forced off his bike by an old chap (estimated 60-70) who told him that he should be riding further left, and emphasised the message by moving his car gradually into the space that my pal was currently occupying, until he was forced to stop.
Although the danger from the 30-49 group more accurately reflects my own experience, I must say.
