Di2 good or bad?

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I hope V for Vengedetta doesn't mind me nicking his image, but this shows the sprint buttons installed on V's Venge.
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Mr Haematocrit

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The modding is mainly adding stuff to the battery and extra shifters?

The vast majority is hiding the ugly arse battery inside the frame, doing in bike charging and shifters. On occassion you will see lights powered from the battery and things like phone chargers. These latter mods however are only really feasible after the seatpost battery mod, simply because when you do this you have the option to increase/decrease battery capacity to reduce the need to charge for longer periods or to reduce weight further.
 

Mr Haematocrit

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Though I would post some custom shifters to add to this thread,
disclaimer - not my work :becool:

1) unoffical sprint buttons. (I run the Shimano buttons myself)
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2) Bar top shifters (cat eye buttons)
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3) hand bike shift buttons
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I'm confused with the comment of 'can't shift multiple gears at once'? Mine can? Every time I change front ring, a quick triple shift on the right shifter gives me an instant and perfect adjustment? It'll shift as fast as I can hit the button!

My personal finding is that, yep, it's fantastic, for all the reasons already covered and all the reasons made obvious. Is it worth the heft price jump from normal Ultegra... probably not! This isn't me dissing the system, I love it and I WOULD get it again, however if you are focused purely on value for money, you don't get £700 more for your money, simply due to the fact that standard Ultegra gears are excellent anyway! If you can accept the price increase and are more concerned about 'the perfect bike' than 'what can I get for my cash', then go for it.
 

Mr Haematocrit

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I'm confused with the comment of 'can't shift multiple gears at once'? Mine can? Every time I change front ring, a quick triple shift on the right shifter gives me an instant and perfect adjustment? It'll shift as fast as I can hit the button!.

On Di2 and Ui2 every time you press the shifter it changes one gear at a time, you can not for example go from second to forth if you desire without going through the gears in between. I totally agree with you in as much as if you tap the shifter quickly it changes gears as fast as I can manually, but the fact remains it does not actually go from the gear you are in to the gear you have chosen without going through all the gears in between. This for me personally is a mute point as I do not experience this as an issue in real world usage due to the speed of function. It seems to be generally used by people wishing to discredit the technology or suggest that EPS is better as that does multiple shifts (the latest Di2 release does multiple shifts so most certainly makes this a mute point)
 

Rando

Veteran
Location
Leicester
I'm confused with the comment of 'can't shift multiple gears at once'? Mine can? Every time I change front ring, a quick triple shift on the right shifter gives me an instant and perfect adjustment? It'll shift as fast as I can hit the button!

My personal finding is that, yep, it's fantastic, for all the reasons already covered and all the reasons made obvious. Is it worth the heft price jump from normal Ultegra... probably not! This isn't me dissing the system, I love it and I WOULD get it again, however if you are focused purely on value for money, you don't get £700 more for your money, simply due to the fact that standard Ultegra gears are excellent anyway! If you can accept the price increase and are more concerned about 'the perfect bike' than 'what can I get for my cash', then go for it.

How about when the price difference is £300. The bike I am looking at next is available with standard ultegra and Di2 .
Still a fair amount £300 but much closer now than the original difference. So tempted by it !
 
How about when the price difference is £300. The bike I am looking at next is available with standard ultegra and Di2 .
Still a fair amount £300 but much closer now than the original difference. So tempted by it !

No question for me at that price point! Go for it :smile:
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
There are loads of people doing some really cool stuff with Di2, ive seen it with campy brakes and on a range of different bikes for which it was not intended.

it is interesting and I think the biggest point is the one you've mentioned about being able to have multiple shifters. I expect that eventually it'll be wireless and you can stick as many shift buttons on the bike as you like. I know Shimano are also bringing out an electronic shifter for the Alfine 11. You can already get a Rohloff version from an independent manufacturer in Australia called Shiftezy.
 

sabian92

Über Member
Am I the only one who finds this sort of battery powered gear change thing next to pointless? I'm not having a dig - i'm genuinely staggered at the price of this for what seems to be no advantage.

I assume you still have to adjust things and replacing a battery is something else to remember. What if you run out of batteries on a club run in the countryside with no batteries on you?

I'll stick to my manual Sora setup, thank you very much ^_^
 
When I looked it a Ui2 set up in store one thing that concerned me was the size of the std button if wearing winter gloves. I can see the advantages though, when I have been in the saddle for 6 hours, only really working the rear shifter, my left hand can become quite weak/numb from inactivity.

When they develop it to run on a triple I will seriously consider it.
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
Am I the only one who finds this sort of battery powered gear change thing next to pointless? I'm not having a dig - i'm genuinely staggered at the price of this for what seems to be no advantage.

I assume you still have to adjust things and replacing a battery is something else to remember. What if you run out of batteries on a club run in the countryside with no batteries on you?

I'll stick to my manual Sora setup, thank you very much ^_^

Unsurprisingly, cycling is a very broad church. Some will savour the cost cutting benefits, others with different attitudes will enjoy the latest technology or equipment. Most are probably in the middle ground. That is not to criticise, but as others have stated, this is a system not for those looking to save a few pounds and get by with a system that will work fine, just not perfectly. Personally, if I could afford it, I would probably fit it. But, a change of life with a new job, means that I need to consider major expenses.
 
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