Does doing something "for charity" give you special rights?

[Ming the Merciless]

For which it appears there was a queue

The queue was self imposed by others for photos, not to touch the trig point. There is no need to queue. Perhaps photos should be limited to a one hour period between 9 to 10am to stop it causing problems for others who wish to “summit”?

The trig point could easily sustain 5 or 6 people touching it every few seconds to avoid a queue forming.

 

[classic33]

The three peaks challenge of the UK is hardly a challenge unless you are walking or cycling between the peaks. Plus driving between them is environmentally poor.

The Three National Peaks is a 24 hour challenge. I doubt you'd get many cycling between the peaks in that time.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

The Three National Peaks is a 24 hour challenge. I doubt you'd get many cycling between the peaks in that time.

And causes much disruption (and litter and **** matter) to local communities at all times of day and night. At least ban on overnight parking in Eyri national park should stop some of that.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

The three peaks challenge of the UK is hardly a challenge unless you are walking or cycling between the peaks. Plus driving between them is environmentally poor.

AFAIK the Three Peaks is split very roughly 50:50 driving vs hillwalking.

To knock out the 'big three' in around 12 hours or so within a 24 hour window is a fair undertaking for a reasonably fit mountain hiker.

For maybe high 90's percent (guess with no scientific basis) of the population it would be impossible.

For that reason I think it is a pretty challenging challenge. Even using car transport.

 

[Dogtrousers]

It's a weird collision between obsession with queueing, the desperate need to have a box to tick (or trig point to touch) to validate an activity, and sundry strange attitudes to charity and sponsorship.

I find it hard to have an opinion on it. It's all so odd.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Look at this lot queuing for their Instagram photo on another well known peak

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Perhaps photos should be limited to a one hour period between 9 to 10am to stop it causing problems for others who wish to “summit”?

Yes, absolutely.
The "selfie" trend is something I find frustrating. I've been to what I consider some of the most amazing places on Earth and where there are others all they want is photos of themselves rather than the phenomenal amazing place. Picture of their faces completely obscuring some unbelievable place.

And they don't then take photos of the place, all they want is some "proof" for social media.

I can end up standing somewhere for 20+ minutes waiting for a clear shot (photo), clear of person/couples standing destroying the amazing place immediately replaced by next person/couples standing.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I can end up standing somewhere for 20+ minutes waiting for a clear shot (photo), clear of person/couples standing destroying the amazing place immediately replaced by next person/couples standing.

We had this in Western Australia. At an amazing rock arch called “The Window of Perception”. A group doing their 1000 Instagram photos within the arch. I wandered in and sat in the arch looking at the view. Spoiled their Instagram party, and they buggered off. I do not mind someone taking one or two photos, but 10s, 100s or filming and wanting others to wait whilst you do so is unacceptable.

If others are in your photo, and show the true picture, so what.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

On a related note, it it selfish that whenever amatuer sailors do sponsored sails, they are raising money for the very organisation that will rescue themselves.
Seems a bit self serving...

The ones I have seen are often mostly getting donations from fellow sailors or people who live close to the sea anyway

and tourists - but whatever


As far as Three Peaks is concerned - I would be more inclined to donate to the ones that sail and walk
basically they start in Caernarfon and the walkers walk up Snowdon and back - i.e. from sea level
then when they are back it has to be timed for the boat to sail up the Menai Straits - which is tidal and very fast running

The walkers rest/sleep/recover while they sail up to the Lake District and then the walkers walk - again from sea level - up Scafell Pike

and back

then sail up to Scotland - not sure of the location

and the walker go up Ben Nevis and back
clock stops when they get back on board

That seems like a real challenge!!!

 

[Dogtrousers]

Look at this lot queuing for their Instagram photo on another well known peak

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It's a sign of the times that as soon as I saw that photo a little voice in my head said "that must be AI"

Although I do know that such queues exist so in retrospect I'm not doubting that one.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

It's a sign of the times that as soon as I saw that photo a little voice in my head said "that must be AI"

Although I do know that such queues exist so in retrospect I'm not doubting that one.

Most definitely real

 

[classic33]

And causes much disruption (and litter and **** matter) to local communities at all times of day and night. At least ban on overnight parking in Eyri national park should stop some of that.

We were "camped" in a nearby scout hut, before being driven to the carpark where the walking started, and finished. The only time both vehicles stayed at the bottom, whilst the walking was done, was in the Lake District.

As for litter and **** matter, we stuck to the Countryside Code. And anything that went out with us, came back with us. Odd in a way, because "How To Sh*t In The Woods" was still a work in progress at that stage. And I still have the photo's/negatives to prove it.

 

[Dogtrousers]

B Kliban from the days before selfies

 

[classic33]

The queue was self imposed by others for photos, not to touch the trig point. There is no need to queue. Perhaps photos should be limited to a one hour period between 9 to 10am to stop it causing problems for others who wish to “summit”?

The trig point could easily sustain 5 or 6 people touching it every few seconds to avoid a queue forming.

It matters not who formed the queue. That it formed showed that those in it had acknowledged they'd have to wait. Just that some felt that their charity walk was too important to have them waiting.
And touching the Trig Point will soon wear away the point itself, given the sheer number of people getting to the summit.
It's purpose may have changed, but it is still a piece of historical interest given it's original purpose. Why not respect that piece of history?

 

[presta]

i did point out they would raise more money by just handing over what ££ the bunch of them were spending on bikes & kit etc and not bother doing the ride.

I once agreed to distribute and collect some charity envelopes in my street. By the time I'd done, I realised that I could have raised about 10 times as much just by spending the same time working overtime, and given them that. And it would have avoided the embarrassment of people asking me what a charity I'd never heard of actually does.