E-MTB - Errosion damage ?

[I like Skol]

in a such derogative manner.

???

 

[dan_bo]

I am sure that in the late 80s if a forum for walkers existed they would be moaning about these new fangled MTBs churning up the paths. Whilst I am sure e-MTBs are causing more damage per bike than an MTB it is a bit rich of MTB riders to be so vocal about the new tribe in a such derogative manner. I don't have the answer to how to solve erosion on un/low maintained trails except banning all types of user or creating even more trails to lighten the load on individual trails, but if something can be done it will need the cooperation of all trail users.

Werd.

 

[dan_bo]

???

Let's have it wight the rhetoric has been leveraged shall we say. That's not to say I disagree.

 

[jowwy]

As far as i can see walkers started the erosion, mtb’ers made it worse and now E mtbs are finishing it off……but only one group is being pilleged for the damage.

Nothing new there

 

[dan_bo]

Pilledged? eh?

TBF though, EMTBs aren't too dissimilar to a 50cc MX bike.

 

[Tenkaykev]

But is it only E bikers???…….could it not be normal bikes too???

Are you really unable to understand what’s being discussed? Using an ebike provides enough power to venture onto places where mere mortals on human powered bikes couldn’t go. This results in destroying the landscape, much like the 4 by 4 destroying the grove roads and bridleways as mentioned in another post.

 

[jowwy]

Here come the anti emtb massive………time to go.

 

[jowwy]

Are you really unable to understand what’s being discussed? Using an ebike provides enough power to venture onto places where mere mortals on human powered bikes couldn’t go. This results in the thick and lazy destroying the landscape, much like the 4 by 4 numpties destroying the grove roads and bridleways as mentioned in another post.

So now they are thick and lazy too…….

it would seem that name calling on this forum is rife yet again.

 

[Tenkaykev]

So now they are thick and lazy too…….

it would seem that name calling on this forum is rife yet again.

Not name calling, just pointing out that if you are aware of the environmental damage and choose to do it anyway then yes, you are both intellectually challenged and unable to destroy the landscape without mechanical assistance.

 

[fossyant]

Here come the anti emtb massive………time to go.

You really don't like it. I only reported what I saw.

 

[jowwy]

You really don't like it. I only reported what I saw.

Like i said….its seems ok for MTBers to damage the landscapes and carve out trails, whether volunteers or not, but no one else is allowed. Just seems double standards at play for me here.

But we can agree to disagree and move on.

 

[fossyant]

Like i said….its seems ok for MTBers to damage the landscapes and carve out trails, whether volunteers or not, but no one else is allowed. Just seems double standards at play for me here.

But we can agree to disagree and move on.

I was reporting what I saw. Maybe these guys just didn't care but not sticking to the trail and tearing up other areas is not on. Applies to any MTBer, but the powered lot were going where us fairly fit leg only lot couldn't.

 

[classic33]

So now they are thick and lazy too…….

it would seem that name calling on this forum is rife yet again.

I've likened it to walking, where over use has seen paths in some areas "sterilized" and ruining the area by using large stone slabs for the path. Getting folk to stick to them is high on impossible.

This leads to landowners wanting to divert ROW/Long Distance Footpaths off their land. The same will happen with e-assist mountainbikes. Quite possibly all bikes. We sort the problem, before it becomes a problem that there is no way back from.

Question: If you can't physically turn the pedals under your own power on an uphill section, no motor to assist. What do you do, get off and push the bike up or go wide of where you should be going to get to the top of section?

 

[jowwy]

Not name calling, just pointing out that if you are aware of the environmental damage and choose to do it anyway then yes, you are both intellectually challenged and unable to destroy the landscape without mechanical assistance.

Hmmmmmmmm - are normal MTBs not mechanical then

 

[dan_bo]

I was reporting what I saw. Maybe these guys just didn't care but not sticking to the trail and tearing up other areas is not on. Applies to any MTBer, but the powered lot were going where us fairly fit leg only lot couldn't.

For the 73rd time