First ride on motorbike

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Matthew_T

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The video cannot be used as evidence against me, because there is no proof that I was the one in the video, and there is no view of the numberplate. So there is no way anyone could be fined/arrested after just viewing the video. I have not said I was the person in it, and I have not linked it to this page.
 
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The car park has public access and is at a leisure facility. Joy riding it is !
They have actually put up fences to try and stop people entering the main area of the car park. Thats why the cars were on the other side of the verge. It didnt stop a few people walking through though.
I was very cautious around the peds. I slowed right down incase they did anything unexpected. Why would I risk hitting someone?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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The video cannot be used as evidence against me, because there is no proof that I was the one in the video, and there is no view of the numberplate. So there is no way anyone could be fined/arrested after just viewing the video. I have not said I was the person in it, and I have not linked it to this page.

Matthew, stop this la la la, stick head in sand attitude, one rule for me.

Have you phoned the DVLA yet ? If not do so, and get that bike legal. You've already said on here it was you, so it WAS you. Listen to just about everyone on here - get the bike made legal, and stay off it till you are legally allowed to ride it. You hurt anyone, you will be in big poo. If the cops catch you, and your parents find out, you can kiss goodbye the idea of having a motor bike. They will go mental.
 
He's already said he walked the bike there. And that the car park is on private land......so how does this qualify as 'joyriding'?

Fair point... I see it as joyriding, although it may not fit the legal definition if such exists.

He was riding at 45mph, untrained, uninsured and in a car park on an untaxed motorcycle for which he has no paperwork. If he could gain access, so can others: Dog walkers, the elderly, other cyclists, parents teaching their children to cycle in a car park (as I did with all three). We can all agree that Matthew is a public-spirited chap who means well, but the law is the law and this was illegal.

The 'private land' thing is odd... This was a stretch of private land big enough to do 45mph on... My impression (I may be very wrong) is that it was privately-owned land not on the public highway, rather than land to which nobody but Matthew had access. If so, that is an offence. I call it joyriding; others may not.

I am not shouting from the saddle of a moral high horse... I've already said I was banned at sixteen, before I even had a license... and I lost mine for roaring around on the public highway. In my youth I was a dreadful scalliwag and broke every rule there was. I learned to drive in a friend's car in France with no license, insurance or real idea of which side of the road I ought to have been on. We drove at night to be inconspicuous. Nobody quite realised how I'd gone on holiday and come back knowing how to drive but without a license.

But... I did not preach and bleat and holler and play the Mighty Moral Mouse of Highway Rectitude.

I do not scold Matthew and with my past I am in no position to do so... but I can point out the incongruity of his position regarding his own obligation to remain within the law and that of other people.

I'm perfectly happy for him to be cut some slack. Had I not been given many, many chances as a youth, I might still be waiting for my license to be returned.

But I still call it joyriding. Others may differ.
 
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fossyant

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They have actually put up fences to try and stop people entering the main area of the car park. Thats why the cars were on the other side of the verge. It didnt stop a few people walking through though.
I was very cautious around the peds. I slowed right down incase they did anything unexpected. Why would I risk hitting someone?

The fact is you were riding an uninsured motor bike in a public area. You admit there were general public around. What's right about that ? It's illegal !
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

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The video cannot be used as evidence against me, because there is no proof that I was the one in the video, and there is no view of the numberplate. So there is no way anyone could be fined/arrested after just viewing the video. I have not said I was the person in it, and I have not linked it to this page.
The video on your youtube account, video files on your cameras/ HDD's, uploaded from your IP address? Why would anyone ever think it could be you?
 
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Matthew_T

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Matthew, stop this la la la, stick head in sand attitude, one rule for me.

Have you phoned the DVLA yet ? If not do so, and get that bike legal. You've already said on here it was you, so it WAS you. Listen to just about everyone on here - get the bike made legal, and stay off it till you are legally allowed to ride it. You hurt anyone, you will be in big poo. If the cops catch you, and your parents find out, you can kiss goodbye the idea of having a motor bike. They will go mental.
I havent said anything. And even if I did, that means nothing.
I killed Hitler. Does that means its the truth? No. Saying something is not evidence of the truth.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

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This afternoon I didnt have anything to do so decided to have a little go on my motorbike.
I walked it to a private car park (dont have insurance) so that I could legally ride it. I already knew where the gears/brakes were so thought it wouldnt be difficult to give it a go.

I being Matthew T of Prestatyn Wales?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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South Manchester
I havent said anything. And even if I did, that means nothing.
I killed Hitler. Does that means its the truth? No. Saying something is not evidence of the truth.


Matthew, please get this into your thick skull. You have committed an offence. Leave the bike at home. You can argue the toss about whether it was you or not (duh) but you are completely ignoring the fact that you've taken a bike that's not insured, not correctly registered, has no MOT and is ridden by someone not suitably trained to do so in an area where you can cause harm to others.

WHAT IS NOT OBVIOUS ABOUT THIS YOU SILLY BOY.
 

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Jolly good, but are you going to act on the 2nd one?
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Edit: simultaneous post with Matthew's one above...
 
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