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Froome and Wiggins TUEs

Discussion in 'Pro Cycling (Road and Track Racing)' started by Joffey, 15 Sep 2016.

  1. Siclo

    Siclo Senior Member

    The TUE was issued for a pollen allergy


    It's only recently there's been reference to asthma, previously it was for an allergy. Now pollen allergy and asthma are closely related so in some ways it's understandable BUT the persistent inconsistencies begin to stack up. The problem is you can't legally have a TUE to prevent a condition (allergic reaction) but you can for an exiting condition, asthma.

    ICBW but I don't think I am, at the time the funding from BC wasn't dependent on an athletes outside earnings as it is now, so yes all the athletes in the Olympic team were being part funded by BC. Incidentally BW was never paid wages, he wasn't an employee, he was a contractor.
  2. jowwy

    jowwy The bearded Powerhouse

    But bradley wasn't in the olympic team at the time of these TUEs he was an employee of team sky

    also in that publication you attached it states for pollen and asthma......so again im not aware of any change in that stance
  3. Siclo

    Siclo Senior Member

    I reckon you're going to tell me Sir Dave was an employee of Sky at the time.
  4. jowwy

    jowwy The bearded Powerhouse

    we are talking Sir brad here, not mentioned Sir Dave................who Sir Dave is paid by has nothing to do with Sir Brad

    LA was paid and employed by a state sponsor, therefore gained financially from it and it was the State that then done for lance, until the state got involved, lance would never have owned up...........
  5. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    I'm talking generally.
  6. Siclo

    Siclo Senior Member

    It's all much of a muchness. Sir Dave was a consultant, Sir Brad was a contractor, neither were employees.

    LA was not employed by the state, he was a contractor to Tailwind Sports, who had a sponsorship with a state owned company.

    Anyway this all a bit irrelevant, you're obviously a fan jowwy, I can understand that, I was and remain a Pantani fan.
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  7. jowwy

    jowwy The bearded Powerhouse

    I have always stated I am a fan
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  8. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    Should not. Maybe only should not determine, rather than should not play a role, but basically should not.

    To see who plays each sport best.

    We could find out in a farking lab who has the biggest VO2 max or who can tolerate the strongest drugs best. It's extremely boring to see that repeatedly rehashed on the roads, mixed a bit with who's best at testing for that and who's got the biggest budget. Let's see some bike racing instead.
  9. Bollo

    Bollo Chaaaaaa!

    You'll not be surprised that I disagree with both answers, but this is heading off-topic and doing no one any good. I'm out.
  10. grellboy

    grellboy Senior Member

    Cycling about to get a caning on Talksport. Matt Lawton on from 8pm.
  11. Siclo

    Siclo Senior Member

    Just read that. Froome obviously thinks the days of a UCI president being able to end a rider's career are over. Be interesting to see if he's right.

    If Hein's grave has a cadence sensor in it, it'll be off the scale.
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  12. Maenchi

    Maenchi StoneDog

    rules versus ethics
    legal versus image
  13. Siclo

    Siclo Senior Member

    And I don't reckon Geraint is on Sir Brad's Christmas card list any more after

    I wonder what a certain Romandie winner thinks of that.
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  14. Adam4868

    Adam4868 Veteran

    To be fair theres more to that interview...
  15. smutchin

    smutchin Cat 6 Racer

    The Red Enclave
    In an idle moment, I did wonder if Thomas might be the anonymous source the DCMS spoke to. For the source to be credible, it has to be someone who had access behind the scenes at races, so a rider or soigneur or maybe even the chef or bus driver (though I've met one of the Team Sky bus drivers and he didn't strike me as a grass). It's also likely to be someone who is vociferously anti-doping, and Thomas certainly fits that bill. On the other hand, he's been a good mate of Wiggo for years, so would he dob him in? There have also been doubts expressed about Thomas's own purity in some quarters.

    Anyway, this really is delving into the realms of speculation so I won't pursue this line of thought any further.
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