Citius
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You sound very certain. I would have absolutely no idea - for the reasons that both myself and @50000tears suggest. Non-exercise HR is an irrelevant measure in this context.
Heart training zones
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You sound very certain. I would have absolutely no idea - for the reasons that both myself and @50000tears suggest. Non-exercise HR is an irrelevant measure in this context.
Tin Pot
Guru
I converted to Ben Greenfields method last year, which makes more sense for a lot of reasons. I've seen a few triathletes prefer this method too:
http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2013/03/how-heart-rate-zones-work/
Z1 70-76% LTHR
Z2 77-85%
Z3 86-95%
Z4 96-103%
Z5 104+
Basically it simplifies the whole thing, for my training I'm either aiming for Z2 or Z4, I don't need to worry about the rest.
http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2013/03/how-heart-rate-zones-work/
Z1 70-76% LTHR
Z2 77-85%
Z3 86-95%
Z4 96-103%
Z5 104+
Basically it simplifies the whole thing, for my training I'm either aiming for Z2 or Z4, I don't need to worry about the rest.
I trained and raced in the years that a HRM was the only option, I just looked around and learned.
Citius
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I did the same. But I never paid any regard to what other people's HR were doing, cos it was irrelevant. A qood quality coach told me that.
Justinslow
Lovely jubbly
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I'm baffled by all this HR stuff, I'm a newbie so I guess I'll learn, I only have to think about doing a TT and my heart rate soars! When I'm actually doing one I seem to settle down and ride more according to my breathing - as hard as I can relative to how much air I can shift.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
I don't if its been said but a lot of folk ignore hr and use power to train which is more regular regardless of conditions, etc. I wish I could afford one though 
It might be a misconception but I find I go better when I just forget about it.
It might be a misconception but I find I go better when I just forget about it.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
There's truth in that, I've not looked at it closely but Ive known a few cyclists who are quite a bit younger than me but have a lower hr and are great riders (well compared to me anyway) ;-)
50000tears
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Whilst a lower resting HR can be a trait, and has been, of some of the best endurance cyclists and athletes alike we may be a bit at cross purposes here. The original question from yourself was what a persons HR was when stepping over a bike. I was just pointing out that my HR can be a little elevated in that situation regardless of fitness. The fact that I can cruise along at a reasonable speed with it much the same suggests that this is not any good way to define a persons fitness.
I am not the best example of course as my fitness still has a long way to go, but in using a HRM for the last year I can be happy that I have become a lot more efficient over that time in fitness terms. My standing over the bike HR doesn't change much but as I can now climb hills in zone 2 that used to send me into zone 5 I must still be progressing.
ayceejay
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It may be useful to define 'heart rate' so that we understand what the numbers mean
Heart rate, also known as pulse, is the number of times a person's heart beats per minute. A normal heart rate depends on the individual, age, body size, heart conditions, whether the person is sitting or moving, medication use and even air temperature.
When a person is at rest, that is like you have just woken up in the morning a heart rate of 60 bpm is considered normal.
A trained athlete has the ability to move blood around the body efficiently with a lower heart rate than an untrained person and some cyclist have a heart rate that would be considered dangerous in anyone else. Before embarking on a quest to improve in this area it would be a good idea to eliminate any medical problems.
Heart rate, also known as pulse, is the number of times a person's heart beats per minute. A normal heart rate depends on the individual, age, body size, heart conditions, whether the person is sitting or moving, medication use and even air temperature.
When a person is at rest, that is like you have just woken up in the morning a heart rate of 60 bpm is considered normal.
A trained athlete has the ability to move blood around the body efficiently with a lower heart rate than an untrained person and some cyclist have a heart rate that would be considered dangerous in anyone else. Before embarking on a quest to improve in this area it would be a good idea to eliminate any medical problems.
You will find as your fitness imroves more your stepover rate will decrease. The line below of ayceejay is my point.
"A trained athlete has the ability to move blood around the body efficiently with a lower heart rate than an untrained person."
Tin Pot
Guru
Which might be fine during a time trial, but is not the most effective way to train for a time trial.
Tin Pot
Guru
Yes, this was a continuation of my previous post. Determine your max, or Lactate Threshold Heart Rate (LTHR) from the test I described.
It's much easier to maintain what your LTHR is than to go get a lab condition VO2 Max every few months.