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Helmets and falling off....

Discussion in 'Helmet Discussions' started by Hutch118, 26 Jul 2015.

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  1. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    That's understandable. No joke. Now please would you consider replying to the points in post #69 instead of suggesting that I'm the one who's confused about where you posted it?
  2. Profpointy

    Profpointy Guru

    Umm, I've slightly lost track here but you and classic seemed to be having an argument whilst agreeing with each other - maybe?
  3. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Awaiting a call back/response from Geraldine Gittens, having just contacted the Irish Independent over your claim that the report mentioned not existing.

    It seems you've found the thread it was posted in and responded there as well.

    If you're serious about it being no joke, I'm out at this point. Disability is no joke mate.
  4. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    That is what he said, no joke.
  5. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    Or rather, the report that I didn't find and asked if anyone else had. At the moment, I've no reason to doubt that it exists, but I can't comment on it in detail and I'm not sure how anyone can verify any claims made about its content?

    Or rather, I found the other thread you posted it in and just posted a link to here, to try to keep it all together. These are in different places: https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/helmets-and-falling-off.184516/page-4#post-3820673 here and https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/would-any-cycle-helmet-have-helped-here.183987/page-9#post-3818729 there.

    I'm serious that "That's understandable" is no joke. I have been incurably ill (which is officially a disability these days, although I think that's debatable) for a very long time. The main difference seems to be that I accept I'm sick, so I can still joke about such topics.
  6. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Born and brought up with epilepsy, which I learned to accept years ago. Jokes about it or rather attempted jokes about its impact I never have, and never will.

    This is descending into mudslinging and probably lead to the thread being locked.

    You did try the number in the link you gave I take it? E-mail even. I have and now await a response, from three sources tried. How many have you tried?
  7. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    He isn't making any jokes about it at all.
  8. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Certain? Where else on the body are helmets worn
  9. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    Oh, I missed that one. Sorry, I see your point.
  10. Yazzoo

    Yazzoo Senior Member

    Wow, as a relative newbie I didn't realise helmets were such a dramatic subject!

    FWIW I tend not to wear a helmet if I'm just nipping to the shops or pub etc on the basket tank bike but I always wear a helmet on the roadie - think its habit mainly, compulsory for sportive and club rides and now feels odd to not be wearing one! I rode horses for years where its just automatic, however on occasion I've jumped on the odd horse without a hat if I'm teaching someone and need to show them, or bringing a horse in/out from the field etc. I'd never really thought about why I always wear one on the roadie but never the tank, maybe it's because of the speeds involved?

    Last time I fell off I was going down a hill, round a corner, too fast, hit some gravel and the bike slid out from under me and I hit the deck. First thing my mother said to me when I told her later that week, "I hope you were wearing a helmet!" - which I was, however not on my hip, knee or elbow - the parts which made contact with the ground!

    Obviously I'm aware that different factors in different falls/accidents/collisions etc will produce different areas of contact with different materials. I've not done the research in to the topic myself but I find the whole argument that helmets are a myth put about by cycling shops to rob us of our hard earned all seems a bit paranoid!

    Anyhoo I've never looked at another cyclist and consciously noticed whether they were wearing a helmet or not - I'm normally concentrating on trying to look cool and not like I'm at all struggling whilst they coast easily by. . .
    Last edited: 27 Jul 2015
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  11. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Helmets seem to fall into two camps. There seems to be very little middle ground available for a person who wants to make their own mind up on when to wear one.
    Any shop that tried pressure selling, on safety grounds, wouldd soon be left.
  12. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

    South coast, UK
    Not sure what you mean by 'very little middle ground'? Everyone already does make up their own mind. The only trouble is that those who decide not to wear a helmet keep on getting hassled and preached at by those who have decided everyone should wear one just because they do.
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  13. w00hoo_kent

    w00hoo_kent One of the 64K

    Whereas nary a peep can be heard from the other lot...
  14. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

    South coast, UK
    Exactly. I don't think I have ever gone up to someone who was wearing a helmet and suggested they should think about not wearing one.
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  15. Profpointy

    Profpointy Guru

    lots of robust responses but rarely start the exchange
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