Highway Code revision

[GetFatty]

Could anyone commenting here that improving the HC is pointless, please also explain why the f[redacted] they are bothering reading this thread and posting on it? (instead of staring morosely into their half-empty beer mug, moaning about the weather, or doing something useful with their time)

Thanks

My point still stands that it is pointless updating the HC unless you update the laws it is describing.

 

[mjr]

My point still stands that it is pointless updating the HC unless you update the laws it is describing.

I'd say not quite pointless, but not as good as correcting the laws.

 

[HMS_Dave]

But which drivers are going to read it? I would suggest that (pulls number from thin air) 99% of drivers have never read the HWC after they have passed their test, unless they need to revise to do another.

An Electrician, Builder, Gas Fitter, Doctor etc all have regulations updated and changed regularly which they need to keep up to date with, why the devil shouldn't a motorist keep up to date? Ignorance is never an excuse.

 

[GetFatty]

I'd say not quite pointless, but not as good as correcting the laws.

I can live with that. Pointless was perhaps too strong a word and there can be good advice in there, it's just getting people to read it

 

[matticus]

The HWC is just a guidance document that is largely thrown in the bin once a driver passes their test. What's needed is a re-wording of the relevant laws (RTA etc) in order to better protect cyclists. Of course the re-worded laws then need to be enforced.

You've listed basically 3 things there that Gov can do.

Do you realise that each is massively cheaper than the next?

Which do you think will happen more quickly?

 

[GetFatty]

You've listed basically 3 things there that Gov can do.

Do you realise that each is massively cheaper than the next?

Which do you think will happen more quickly?

I get that and if you change the HC, then new drivers will pay attention to it. Maybe. Existing drivers won't read it. The law change is the only way to make people sit up and take notice.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I'd like to see people pulled in at random with 2 weeks notice & made to do a compulsory HWC test to keep their license, or even better, annually or biannually HWC test (if that's every 2 years & not twice a year)

Biannual = twice a year
Biennial = every two years 👍

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Biannual = twice a year
Biennial = every two years 👍

Always been igurant wi words, but I think we are getting to the stage where a license for life has to be challenged, periodic testing, random testing or sometime, the quality/skill of drivers is plummeting.

 

[matticus]

The excuse always used to be the lack of examiners - but that doesn't hold any water for theory re-tests.

And you could probably have a stripped/dumbed down version of the test for re-tests, if necessary.

 

[classic33]

The excuse always used to be the lack of examiners - but that doesn't hold any water for theory re-tests.

And you could probably have a stripped/dumbed down version of the test for re-tests, if necessary.

If you use a dumbed down version for retests, why waste time with a retest?

 

[matticus]

If you use a dumbed down version for retests, why waste time with a retest?

Better than not doing a retest?
(this is a standard approach to certification ... )

Do you like the retest concept?

 

[classic33]

Better than not doing a retest?
(this is a standard approach to certification ... )

Do you like the retest concept?

Why not a limit on the life of your licence? Ireland has a 10 year limit on theirs.

 

[matticus]

Sorry - how is that different to a "retest"?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Why not a limit on the life of your licence? Ireland has a 10 year limit on theirs.

Along with instant do not go past go do not collect £200 straight to jail if caught driving without a valid one.

 

[classic33]

Along with instant do not go past go do not collect £200 straight to jail if caught driving without a valid one.

I like their three disc system. VED, NCT and insurance all on public display in the windscreen.