Idiots on bikes

[glenn forger]

What is?

 

[pauldavid]

You said that before. I asked you which threads and you couldn't answer. If you take issue with my posts then cite the post, stop making stuff up.

Any one of your many naughty motorist threads would do, pick one yourself they all tend to be much the same anyway

 

[glenn forger]

You are taking issue with a post of mine you can't cite on a thread you can't name? What upset you so much?

 

[Crandoggler]

Errr OK, I always run lights even during the day in summer I run a rear light

So now you're an avid energy waster and a colossal black target for motorists.

You lunatic. Buy some proper lights!

 

[glenn forger]

Years ago I had blue wheel lights and a copper complimented me on their visibilitiness.

 

[pauldavid]

You are taking issue with a post of mine you can't cite on a thread you can't name? What upset you so much?

Your general attitude toward anyone with a view other than your own over a prolonged period of time

 

[growingvegetables]

With apologies if this has already been posted - put it down to my laziness ........... and frustration at a very old myth.

IF drivers very definitely see cyclists dressed in black, riding black bikes, without lights - and give them a wide berth, how come do they decide to come so close to me, lit up like a ****ing Xmas tree, high-vis waistcoat/arm bands/ankle bands, and wheel lights?

Simples - I have lit myself up so that they can improve their aim! Sure, it's a tiny minority, but I do get pissed off when unlit ninja is given space, and I get the punishment pass.

 

[Tin Pot]

It's not rocket science is it?

No, but it is yet another situation where your intuition is faulty, and leads you to focus on the wrong things entirely.

Your "but it's common sense" position is plain wrong - maybe you should open your mind as to why so many people on this thread are telling you so.

It could be that they have a better understanding of the problem that you could learn from...I know I did.

 

[Tin Pot]

Actual idiots on bikes.

Idiots for thinking hi viz makes them safer.

 

[flake99please]

I believe that its 'due diligence' on my part by wearing hi-viz clothing and having my bike lit up like a Christmas tree, (and to a lesser extent wearing a helmet) as it leaves less opportunity for another road user (or pedestrian for that matter) to say they didnt see me in the event of an accident. At the end of October this year I was involved in a collision with a car where the driver performed a move without checking his mirror before executing his manoeuvre. Im not saying that I consider myself safer because I choose to wear what I wear or have the lights fitted as I do, nor am I saying that anyone who chooses otherwise is less safer on the roads. If I choose to wear hi-viz and have my bike well lit up then what other excuses can a driver use for not seeing me properly other than that they were not paying attention to their surroundings (assuming I am riding in an appropriate and lawful manner).

 

[Ian193]

Old bill are pragmatists, they would never charge a cyclist with non-standard lights so long as they had lights and I've never heard of pedal reflectors' absence causing a fine.

Once my feet are on the pedals you wouldn't be able to see the reflectors anyway whether they're fitted or not

 

[Justinslow]

No, but it is yet another situation where your intuition is faulty, and leads you to focus on the wrong things entirely.

Your "but it's common sense" position is plain wrong - maybe you should open your mind as to why so many people on this thread are telling you so.

It could be that they have a better understanding of the problem that you could learn from...I know I did.

Why don't you try to en "lighten" me then..........

The problem is some people are just plain ignorant, if you think that applies to me - fine.

 

[Tin Pot]

Why don't you try to en "lighten" me then..........

The problem is some people are just plain ignorant, if you think that applies to me - fine.

I don't believe ignorance is insulting. How can we learn, without being ignorant or wrong about the subject?

The points have been made in the thread. What I'm challenging you to do is consider that these people are not wrong; that they have learned something you haven't yet.

To form a reliable opinion on any given subject, we must first dismiss all our assumptions and prejudices. Then form some potential ideas. Then consider supporting evidence.

 

[Justinslow]

Actual idiots on bikes.

Idiots for thinking hi viz makes them safer.

And you wonder why cyclists get a hard time with attitudes like that?
So to take it back to my children - should I tell them when out riding in dark conditions don't bother with lights and wear dark clothing?

 

[Justinslow]

I don't believe ignorance is insulting. How can we learn, without being ignorant or wrong about the subject?

The points have been made in the thread. What I'm challenging you to do is consider that these people are not wrong; that they have learned something you haven't yet.

To form a reliable opinion on any given subject, we must first dismiss all our assumptions and prejudices. Then form some potential ideas. Then consider supporting evidence.

Or just use common sense and bypass all the bull##it......