Idiots stopping in ASL boxes.

[Drago]

Where the situation permits, behind the first vehicle is perfect. Text book, in fact.

 

[GetFatty]

I really don't like ASLs and think they should be removed. I aim to find a place in the traffic towards the front rather than be in an ASL at the front with 5 or 6 frustrated drivers behind me itching to get past

 

[rogerzilla]

Filtering on the left is often difficult and certainly at your own risk, so I don't really see the point of ASLs. I just sit in the queue unless it's really gridlocked.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I really don't like ASLs and think they should be removed. I aim to find a place in the traffic towards the front rather than be in an ASL at the front with 5 or 6 frustrated drivers behind me itching to get past

I'm sorry but that is too much of a sensible suggestion you should hang your head in shame, we as entitled cyclists should be allowed to go straight to the front & hold up the vehicles behind as much as we can, after all we pay as much road tax as they do!

 

[figbat]

...we as entitled cyclists should be allowed to go straight to the front & hold up the vehicles behind as much as we can, after all we pay as much road tax as they do!

Not only that, but we entitled cyclists must be permitted to break the law in retaliation to any law breaking we observe by other road users. And we can always pull out the safety card when we so.

 

[DaveReading]

How many times have you been asked by a driving non cyclist why should cyclists get to the front of the que only for all the cars to have to go to the huge hassle of overtaking again?

I've never been asked that by a driver.

But I've often asked myself that question.

 

[Drago]

When I get to the supermarket, bike helmet min hand, I immediately rush to the front of the queue instead of waiting my turn, as is my god given right as a cyclist. Hell, sometimes I even go past the till, simply because I'm a cyclist.

 

[Moon bunny]

...(i suspect it's in its normal posterior position)

Does that mean up his ***?

 

[carlosfandangus]

We only have one AFAIK, its no wonder people don't know how to use one correctly, I was driving yesterday and a lady cyclist came to the front of the queue for the traffic lights (in the cycle lane) and proceeded to ride far to her left through all the detritus as people overtook her through the lights, they are there to let more vulnerable people cross the junction, just the other side of the lights the cycle lane starts again (now used as a queue for Mcdonalds!!!).
When I use the same junction on a bike, as @Drago says, hang back from the car in front if they are in the ASL, if they are not I go to the centre of the ASL and make sure I am seen by the driver behind me.

 

[rogerzilla]

An ASL pretty much guarantees you don't get to ride in clear space. If you go with the flow there are usually big gaps in the traffic.

 

[carlosfandangus]

TT is worse, foreign visitors ( sometimes UK too) use the cycle lane to filter on the left and then fill the ASL box with motorcycles!

 

[Deleted member 26715]

They were once explained to me as the only way to turn right in the centre of a busy city I refute that, if you a confident rider you can make your own space without being too aggressive, but you have think about it before the junction & plan. which I think is difficult for some people.

 

[dodgy]

I refute that, if you a confident rider you can make your own space without being too aggressive,

Well that's the problem isn't it? There are lots of would-be cyclists lacking confidence, that's why the narrative right now is to build infrastructure. You and me probably don't feel we need it, having been brought up in the school of hard knocks of UK cycling for the last x years 🤷‍♂️

 

[carlosfandangus]

I think you are right there, before I moved over to the Isle of man I used to ride to work through some busy town centres with lots of traffic and lights/junctions, riding in traffic became almost second nature, however we certainly have a lot more cyclists on the road at the moment who have not got the same experience with riding in traffic.
I must admit I recently had an off that was my fault entirely, near empty/quiet roads and I just took my eye off the ball so to speak, more traffic I may have been more aware

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Well that's the problem isn't it? There are lots of would-be cyclists lacking confidence, that's why the narrative right now is to build infrastructure. You and me probably don't feel we need it, having been brought up in the school of hard knocks of UK cycling for the last x years 🤷‍♂️

But is it actually safer for them to go up the corridor of opening doors, then get to the end, do an immediate right across the front of queuing traffic all waiting at the green light grand prix & probably obvious to them, at a point when the lights could change at anytime. Then to have some impatient driver held up behind them out in no man's land.