In praise of titanium - and Spa Cycles

[Yellow Saddle]

i wonder why golf club manufacturers changed from using steel in the driver heads to titanium and therefore being able to make bigger heads, for less weight? also with the introduction of the titanium club heads, also came the introduction the COR effect ( due to the springy nature of the titanium clubface).......all those things make me feel that not all findings can be proclaimed to be bullshit/bollocks by the manufacturers of said titanium frames

Jowwy old pal, you are grumpy again. Take your medication.
At your age you should know that you cannot apply the solutions to one problem to another problem unless the two are very closely related. I don't see how a golf club compares to a bicycle but I'll ask you to list the similarities if you have any such in mind.

 

[jowwy]

Jowwy old pal, you are grumpy again. Take your medication.
At your age you should know that you cannot apply the solutions to one problem to another problem unless the two are very closely related. I don't see how a golf club compares to a bicycle but I'll ask you to list the similarities if you have any such in mind.

i see no-one else making personal insults within their posts - so i will kindly ask for you to remove yours from this thread.......

the comparison is the material used, in this case titanium and its ability to flex under load, being able to be made thinner, yet still being able to be strong and lightweight at the same time.

you say in one of your posts that titanium's super strength is unfounded, yet golf club manufacturers have found different ( and no i can't be bothered to look it up, so dont ask)

 

[Jenkins]

As a Ti bike owner (Van Nicholas Ventus) can I also give praise for the subjective ride qualities of this frame material. Previously my "best" bike was a Boardman Carbon which I thought was a decent ride, but on the first few outings on the Ventus I found out what a compliant ride it was.

Then I swapped the wheel & tyres (Campagnolo Zonda & GP4000s) from the Boardman to the Ventus and the (basic) Mavic Aksium wheels & Schwalbe Lugano tyres the other way round and the ride seemed to improve on the Ventus and deteriorate on the Boardman. So it seems to be a mixture of the frame and wheel/tyre combination that give the comfort.

One area of patched road that vibrated the Boardman violently as if riding on a washboard is smothed on the Ventus to make me look down to check the tyres haven't gone soft.

With regards to the vibration testing machine on page 3, there are a few other things that may effect the result so surely you can't generalise that all the materials will give the same result?
What grade of steel pipe?
What lay-up of carbon as this can give different strengths or flexibility?
(don't know much about aluminium)
Which wood?
Which grade of Titanium?

 

[Cyclist33]

i see no-one else making personal insults within their posts - so i will kindly ask for you to remove yours from this thread.......
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Apart from this bit of course:

"Isnt it strange how a person continually rebukes everyones claims as bollocks and only his opinion should stand"

 

[Pale Rider]

...."Isnt it strange how a person continually rebukes everyones claims as bollocks and only his opinion should stand...

If that's an insult, I'm buying a bike made of bamboo.

 

[jowwy]

Higlight the personal insult towards anybody within that quote????

Name of said person?
And any quote stated within said post?

 

[potsy]

Is cyclist33 YS's minder?

 

[Profpointy]

Higlight the personal insult towards anybody within that quote????

Name of said person?
And any quote stated within said post?

c'mon you two - disagree vehemently but it's boring if we go down this road

 

[Cyclist33]

...."Isnt it strange how a person continually rebukes everyones claims as bollocks and only his opinion should stand...

If that's an insult, I'm buying a bike made of bamboo.

Of course it is. a) it is aimed personally, b) it is toned in a sardonic way, b) it attempts to position the target person in the category of "strange" in the minds of the reader, which is a classic bullying technique, and c) it uses inflammatory rhetoric and slang to position the target person as belittled to the reader.

 

[Cyclist33]

Higlight the personal insult towards anybody within that quote????

Name of said person? Yellow saddle, obviously, even if you thinly veiled that.
And any quote stated within said post? All of it.

I'm not saying yellow saddle did not indulge in the personal, but you did it first in this case.

 

[Cyclist33]

Is cyclist33 YS's minder?

He doesn't need one but why should a forum receive public ridicule if they come out in support of one viewpoint or other?

That is what seems to be the case.

 

[Profpointy]

i wonder why golf club manufacturers changed from using steel in the driver heads to titanium and therefore being able to make bigger heads, for less weight? also with the introduction of the titanium club heads, also came the introduction the COR effect ( due to the springy nature of the titanium clubface).......all those things make me feel that not all findings can be proclaimed to be bullshit/bollocks by the manufacturers of said titanium frames

Probably not the best analogy as I suspect golf club manufacturers have even more scope to sell bling to gullible punters with too much money than do cycle makers. And I confess to having Ti parts on my bike, albeit not the frame

 

[jowwy]

You merely make an assumption based on non-fact........

 

[vickster]

The OP seems happy with the different viewpoints being discussed, so why not just put the handbags down and stick whoever you don't like on ignore...there are a few of you in this thread within my esteemed but not that exclusive ignore club... Means I get the sensible discussion and not the bitching

 

[jowwy]

Probably not the best analogy as I suspect golf club manufacturers have even more scope to sell bling to gullible punters with too much money than do cycle makers. And I confess to having Ti parts on my bike, albeit not the frame

My analogy was merely about strength and weight of said material....