Increase in seizures of illegal ebikes

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mjr

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I don't do my shopping in a car anymore.

I get it delivered instead. This means I don't have to walk down to the car and walk round the shops. So exhausting.
I tried that in the pandemic. The ordering sites were pants, the delivery times were missed, the selection of fresh products seemed like shifting old stock (and supermarket produce is never as fresh as markets anyway) and the substitutions were ridiculous. It's much less stress just to cycle to the High Street (well, mostly Broad Street, Norfolk Street and New Conduit).

One of the services famous for dodgy-looking bikes delivers groceries, but only from Londis near me, which is painfully expensive even without their delivery fees. And it's right on the cycleway anyway. So I've not downloaded their farking app. I'd probably have ridden to the shop quicker than I could get the app to work.
 
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Webbo2

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I tried that in the pandemic. The ordering sites were pants, the delivery times were missed, the selection of fresh products seemed like shifting old stock (and supermarket produce is never as fresh as markets anyway) and the substitutions were ridiculous. It's much less stress just to cycle to the High Street (well, mostly Broad Street, Norfolk Street and New Conduit).

This is bollocks, we pay about £4 for a delivery which is probably cheaper than driving to our nearest big supermarket. We have never had a delivery not be in the time allotted.
Just remind me when exactly the pandemic was, you might find things are a bit different now.
I can cycle for 6 hours plus but there’s no way I could carry our weekly shop back on my bike, in fact I couldn’t even carry our weeks wine.🥂
 

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I can cycle for 6 hours plus but there’s no way I could carry our weekly shop back on my bike, in fact I couldn’t even carry our weeks wine.🥂

I think you’d have to rethink your shopping habits. Your weekly shop exists precisely because it was conceived with your car in mind. If doing it without a car you’d more frequent but smaller shops. Of course if you have a cargo bike you can shift as much shopping as you do in a car.
 
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Drago

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This is bollocks, we pay about £4 for a delivery which is probably cheaper than driving to our nearest big supermarket. We have never had a delivery not be in the time allotted.
Just remind me when exactly the pandemic was, you might find things are a bit different now.
I can cycle for 6 hours plus but there’s no way I could carry our weekly shop back on my bike, in fact I couldn’t even carry our weeks wine.🥂

I moved a washing machine on my bike. Well, on the trailer.

A weeks shopping is easily doable, but I also get mine delivered and salve my conscience that this means reduces congestion and pollution over dozens of cars making return journeys.
 

mjr

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Its rumoured that Deloveroo will even try and eat it for you, thus saving you the tiresome bother of chewing and swallowing. Another reason to avoid them.
Oh well, at least they stop before the next stage of the process, unlike this delivery driver: King’s Lynn Papa John’s delivery driver fired after urinating in front of customer’s house in Terrington St Clement – https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/piz...red-after-urinating-in-front-of-cust-9430881/

Another new star of CCTV!
 
Yet, all this illegal use could be sorted, just make the limits sensible.
Allow
20mph assist limit and 750W motor will cover probably 99.9% of rider uses

Yes - but the people using their cars to drive 1 mile to Tesco will not switch to a bike
even if it is not raining and they just have to sit on it and twist the throttle

IMO anyway
 
I think you’d have to rethink your shopping habits. Your weekly shop exists precisely because it was conceived with your car in mind. If doing it without a car you’d more frequent but smaller shops. Of course if you have a cargo bike you can shift as much shopping as you do in a car.

when had a stroke in January I couldn;t use the car

For the first week or so I got everything from the Co-OP which is a 10 minute walk away but small - so not much variety
and expensive - very expensive

After she reckoned I was OK to ride my bike I started going to Tesco and ASDA on it - and using the panniers

apart from big things like boxes of washing powder and toilet rolls I could easily do everything that way

so now that is what I do
sorry - no I don't - I mostly use the car

yes - I know

but the coast of using the car is far less that that of delivery and I prefer to choose the items myself
 

cyberknight

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Legal bikes bought as such have to have a "plate" on them somewhere
mine is on the bottom bracket

but it is basically only a very good quality sticker that won;t come off

I saw a "kit" somewhere that came with a sticker anyway

I have also seen from some other countries a thing where they could put the bike on it and see how fast it went
but how the detect if the motor cuts out I am not sure

also - there is - apparently - some "allowance" as to the cut off speed - I think it is 10%

but I think they look for the easy wins
such as a hub motor the size of a dinner plate
and a clearly visible throttle - which is easy to test for if found

If they tackle all of them then the rest that are only a bit dodgy are much less of a problem and could be looked at later

Bar mitts even mid summer is a big hint too
 

cyberknight

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Carrying 6 bags of groceries probably isnt reasonable. Use a car, taxi,or home delivery service. Even a meathead lime me woukd struggle to walk back with a mo ths shopping in my hands.

Conversely, diving half a mile for a pint of milk is by no measure reasonable in this context and is bone idle laziness, plain and ssimpleq

Hkwever, if someone can reasonably do something on foot, but habitually choose to use a car instead they are lazy. That's pretty much the definition.

I remember when I was kid the weekly shop was a family trip to town on the bus , everyone carrying bags helping out .
 
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