Is cycling anywhere near as green as it could be ?

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Gillstay

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I look at all the fashion items, the bike that are usable and being scrapped, the parts that only fit one bike model, the annoyance of going to shops to buy parts they don't not have as there are loads of different ones and i wonder........is this industry reacting at all to global warming or is it just sitting on its arse and saying `we are a green industry ?'
 

Drago

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For the most part the latter.

But its the same with motoring too. Electric cars salve consciences, they do really not solve problems.
 
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Gillstay

Gillstay

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For the most part the latter.

But its the same with motoring too. Electric cars salve consciences, they do really not solve problems.
I think for Europe your correct, but for the still gas guzzling USA, I think electric is the only way they will change away from their stupid habits.
 

Smokin Joe

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None of us are green, no matter how much we like to think. Everyone of us needs to eat, cloth ourselves, have somewhere to live and even with the most basic of human comforts (Which most of us far exceed, cars, phones, bicycles, computers, TVs etc) we all contribute to climate change simply by existing.

Climate change is caused by there being far too many of us for the planet to sustain long term. It will rebalance when it causes most of us to die and cuts our number to an amount that allows Co2 levels to fall. It ain't gonna be pretty.
 

classic33

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I look at all the fashion items, the bike that are usable and being scrapped, the parts that only fit one bike model, the annoyance of going to shops to buy parts they don't not have as there are loads of different ones and i wonder........is this industry reacting at all to global warming or is it just sitting on its arse and saying `we are a green industry ?'
Then you risk manufacturer's pulling items, possibly not no longer making any. With the increase in prices due to fewer manufacturers producing parts for the bicycle industry.

The "green part" comes down to the user in the end. How, and where, you ride will dictate the wear and tear. Tie that in with how you maintain your bike and then ask are you as "green" as could be. It's too easy blame the industry, and deny you have any part to play in it.
 
I genuinely feel the tide has turned. We are heading in the right direction. The "fashion items" in the bike industry does draw more people into cycling. The number of colleagues and friends who cycle to work and to run errands have gone up. It means they are doing more greens things compared to the past.

Every bit helps. Ask me the same question 10 years ago I would have expressed no confidence.

We just have to be careful and not go Woke on these things and start putting people off by our overzealous conduct and activism.
 
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Gillstay

Gillstay

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Then you risk manufacturer's pulling items, possibly not no longer making any. With the increase in prices due to fewer manufacturers producing parts for the bicycle industry.

The "green part" comes down to the user in the end. How, and where, you ride will dictate the wear and tear. Tie that in with how you maintain your bike and then ask are you as "green" as could be. It's too easy blame the industry, and deny you have any part to play in it.
I currently have one bike awaiting headstock bearings as they are not in stock, and then another Specialised Cirrus which I thought the dealer would have bearings for as its a common model, had to back on the road with loose bearings as again they did not have them with the right shaped cage. These are consumables not exotic items and lead to more expense/delay for people getting bikes serviced.
 

classic33

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I currently have one bike awaiting headstock bearings as they are not in stock, and then another Specialised Cirrus which I thought the dealer would have bearings for as its a common model, had to back on the road with loose bearings as again they did not have them with the right shaped cage. These are consumables not exotic items and lead to more expense/delay for people getting bikes serviced.
Do you have to use caged bearings, or can you use loose bearings(more individual bearings required). Not quite as quick change as a caged bearing, often used for convenience rather than mechanical gain.

Supply is having trouble meeting demand at present. Maybe get fewer people cycling.
 
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Gillstay

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Do you have to use caged bearings, or can you use loose bearings(more individual bearings required). Not quite as quick change as a caged bearing, often used for convenience rather than mechanical gain.

Supply is having trouble meeting demand at present. Maybe get fewer people cycling.
The bike gets neglected and if the bearings are loose I reckon he will leave a trail of them down the road in a couple of months time, :rolleyes: so would like to save the forks by having them caged.
 

classic33

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The bike gets neglected and if the bearings are loose I reckon he will leave a trail of them down the road in a couple of months time, :rolleyes: so would like to save the forks by having them caged.
That comes back to the user, not the manufacturers. Ease of use before proper maintenance.

If your stuck on using caged bearings, what's wrong with the current cages.
 
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