Jumping red lights

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2. "All that slowing down does is delays your getting to the back of the next traffic queue."
I understood that to mean that there is no point speeding as It will not improve your journey time

Every time in central London where there has been a noticeably identifiable car - usually one with loud music coming out, lots of customisation on the outside and an aggressive driving style - I have made faster progress than them. It usually involves them doing an aggressive overtake and speeding off and then me catching them up and pootling past them at the next traffic queue. This is repeated multiple times with them getting further and further back each time. Eventually all you hear is their stereo fading into the distance behind if they haven't turned off.

And to date I have never been beaten to the next meeting or back to the station by colleagues taking a taxi or the tube so it seems more generally true. Even Top Gear's race from Kew to City Airport was won by the cyclist by a big margin. Even public transport was faster than the car.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

It seems to me to be quite the contrary

Does it. If light patterns are a constant then after you stop at one red light the traffic in front of you will also stop at the next red light and so on. Seems straight forward to me. Unless London is a place like on other with different rules and traffic flows. Hence mention of a London Sub Forum.

 

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Motorists or not by saying one jam leads to another you are implying a steady flow of traffic.

So according to you what we need for a steadier flow of traffic is more jams. I see.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

So according to you what we need for a steadier flow of traffic is more jams. I see.

Your words not mine.

 

[Twigman]

They can't, especially big bikes like Fireblades. The gaps are generally too narrow to get a motorbike through and they are too unmanoeuvrable to thread through the traffic

What total bollocks - filtering on a FireBlade is a piece of piss.

All it takes is a little forward planning....the tossers who get stuck filtering aren't thinking ahead, aren't planning their route or are total novices.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

What total bollocks - filtering on a FireBlade is a piece of piss.

Howe dare you argue with RL. He is the font of all knowledge!

 

[rowan 46]

Does it. If light patterns are a constant then after you stop at one red light the traffic in front of you will also stop at the next red light and so on. Seems straight forward to me. Unless London is a place like on other with different rules and traffic flows. Hence mention of a London Sub Forum.

the comment about jams was made in reference to motorists. I have seen cars dive out from the lights to stop at the next queue just the other side so one does wonder why the frantic urgency

 

[Angelfishsolo]

the comment about jams was made in reference to motorists. I have seen cars dive out from the lights to stop at the next queue just the other side so one does wonder why the frantic urgency

I did get the bit about motorists!!! There are idiot drivers in the same way there are idiot cyclists. Your point is?

 

[Twigman]

I often find myself stuck behind bikers who think this and jam up gaps I could fit through.

See my comment above ^^^



It's novices and people who only think a few yards ahead that get stuck - and that's quite a small proportion.

How often do you see couriers/despatch riders stuck?
Rarely, I'd wager - that's because they know what they're doing, and have experience to plan ahead.
You won't see me stuck filtering.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

See my comment above ^^^



It's novices and people who only think a few yards ahead that get stuck - and that's quite a small proportion.

How often do you see couriers/despatch riders stuck?
Rarely, I'd wager - that's because they know what they're doing, and have experience to plan ahead.
You won't see me stuck filtering.

Are you saying personal experience is of value???? Shock horror

 

[Twigman]

P.S. the fact that you were "exonerated" by a policeman doesn't mean that a court would have come to the same conclusion.

Errr to get to court surely the police would have to convince the CPS I had a case to answer?
If the police don't believe I have a case to answer then it's got no chance of getting to court with me in the dock.

I could've brought a civil case and I'm sure the fact that the police were prepared to state that there was nothing more that I could've done to avoid the incident would've worked in my favour.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Errr to get to court surely the police would have to convince the CPS I had a case to answer?
If the police don't believe I have a case to answer then it's got no chance of getting to court with me in the dock.

I could've brought a civil case and I'm sure the fact that the police were prepared to state that there was nothing more that I could've done to avoid the incident would've worked in my favour.

 

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See my comment above ^^^



It's novices and people who only think a few yards ahead that get stuck - and that's quite a small proportion.

How often do you see couriers/despatch riders stuck?
Rarely, I'd wager - that's because they know what they're doing, and have experience to plan ahead.
You won't see me stuck filtering.

See them stuck all the time. The bigger the bike the easier it is to get stuck because its too wide, too heavy and can't turn through a narrow gap to change lanes easily. The Fireblade chassis is 50% wider than my Brommie handlebars and weighs 20 times as much. Keep up the pretence though.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

See them stuck all the time. The bigger the bike the easier it is to get stuck because its too wide, too heavy and can't turn through a narrow gap to change lanes easily. The Fireblade chassis is 50% wider than my Brommie handlebars and weighs 20 times as much. Keep up the pretence though.

Which part of novice riders did you miss?

 

[Red Light]

Which part of novice riders did you miss?

Which part of courier/dispatch riders did you miss?

Ah, experienced riders can do a Knight Bus can they and pass through gaps narrower than they are? I'd love to see Strawman filter through the buses and cars coming off the north end of Waterloo Bridge. Hope he has some spare mirrors, indicator lights and a pipe cutter for his handlebars.