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vickster

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they fell off , could do with a few more i suppose.
or im a nutter gagging to back to it ;)

Were there no waterproof dressings over the top? :scratch:
I’d get in touch with hospital
Mine post op in January, those dressings stayed on for a good 7-10 days
 

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cyberknight

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As long as I breathe, I attack.
Were there no waterproof dressings over the top? :scratch:
I’d get in touch with hospital
Mine post op in January, those dressings stayed on for a good 7-10 days

ooh matron !!!
i am walking a bit and spinning the turbo with hardly any resistance and light strength exercises , feeling a lot better than i expected .
amazed at the size of the holes and how quickly they are healing .
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pip001

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hi everyone im in need of some advice.after years of knee pain its now become chronic artritis in an old injury..the only way to get through the day is pain killers now.
after a battle with the gp i finally have a hospital physio appointment on friday.i do rehab exercises but they dont really help.ive had previous surgery years ago and was told may need more in the future.my question is how do you get passed the physio to see a specialist and have a scan ect rather than fobbed off with exercises that will not really help.ive had one local gp consultation with there physio and it was a joke.any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

vickster

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Have you had an X-ray at least to confirm the severity of arthritis (the extent to which the cartilage and joint space are gone).
Unfortunately, if it’s not severe enough to warrant a replacement (and you’re under 60-65), physio and pain relief are realistically your only options on the NHS. There’s very little else, an arthritis brace might help, along with non weight bearing exercises. Strengthening, weight loss of needed.
The NHS can triage to orthopaedics if they feel surgery or perhaps a steroid injection only option. Unfortunately wash outs don’t offer much for arthritis, a locked knee a different matter.

Privately, you would be able to expedite seeing a consultant surgeon, a scan and surgery. Might be worth at least paying a few hundred for a consultation (try to at least get X-rays on the NHS and see a surgeon with an NHS practice locally too).
Private physio also an option if you’re not getting anywhere with the NHS.
 
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pip001

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Thanks for the advice. I had an x ray a year ago and confirmed arthritis but not what stage. Something has definitely changed in last three months. Can only walk a few paces now before my knee bone gets unbearably sore and tender. Pain relief doesn't really touch it now. Previous dealings with physios is not inspiring unfortunately.
 

vickster

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in my experience the gp needs a firework up their ass before anything gets done

The GP has likely done what the local msk triage system entails, referred to the hospital physio. It’s then down to the hospital physio to triage to orthopaedics.
@pip001 explain the situation to the physio at your appointment today and request the onward referral. Perhaps you’ve got a meniscus tear, joint line pain on inside or outside of knee which seems to be what you’re describing on walking can be an indicator and degenerate meniscus tears in older/arthritic knees go hand in hand with west and tear (unless the knee bone you mean is the kneecap?)
 
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cyberknight

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As long as I breathe, I attack.
The GP has likely done what the local msk triage system entails, referred to the hospital physio. It’s then down to the hospital physio to triage to orthopaedics.
@pip001 explain the situation to the physio at your appointment today and request the onward referral. Perhaps you’ve got a meniscus tear, joint line pain on inside or outside of knee which seems to be what you’re describing on walking can be an indicator and degenerate meniscus tears in older/arthritic knees go hand in hand with west and tear (unless the knee bone you mean is the kneecap?)

its ok i meant the nhs in general in my eperience are so slow and unless you chase little happens,When i went for my xray i had to chase the results as nobody even told me and no plan going forward was even discussed .Dont get me started on my collar bone break where they kept sending me home with 2 full breaks to see how it would go
 

vickster

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its ok i meant the nhs in general in my eperience are so slow and unless you chase little happens,When i went for my xray i had to chase the results as nobody even told me and no plan going forward was even discussed .Dont get me started on my collar bone break where they kept sending me home with 2 full breaks to see how it would go

Slow and totally overwhelmed in many areas unfortunately. Knee pain (and non emergency/life changing/life threatening orthopaedics in general) comes way down the list of priorities esp as there are very few definitive treatments for arthritis, pretty much a replacement once physio, weight loss, exercise are no longer satisfactory. And you don’t want a replacement ideally before the age of 60.
Clearly some hospitals are better than others, issue is with general hospitals, specialist centres like the one here are a better bet.

Lots of broken collar bones don’t get/need surgery hence the watch and wait, if during Covid even less surprising.
 
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cyberknight

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As long as I breathe, I attack.
Slow and totally overwhelmed in many areas unfortunately. Knee pain (and non emergency/life changing/life threatening orthopaedics in general) comes way down the list of priorities esp as there are very few definitive treatments for arthritis, pretty much a replacement once physio, weight loss, exercise are no longer satisfactory. And you don’t want a replacement ideally before the age of 60.
Clearly some hospitals are better than others, issue is with general hospitals, specialist centres like the one here are a better bet.

Lots of broken collar bones don’t get/need surgery hence the watch and wait, if during Covid even less surprising.

erm this is what they were waiting on,
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pip001

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Well what a complete waste of time that was. After an assessment was told need three months of physio exercises before any further referall. Refused another xray to see what had changed. Left limping with a rubber band and no hope.they really dont listen to a word you say.its like they want to make sure there trying to spend the least amount money on you they can get away with.private is my only hope now i suppose
 

vickster

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Well what a complete waste of time that was. After an assessment was told need three months of physio exercises before any further referall. Refused another xray to see what had changed. Left limping with a rubber band and no hope.they really dont listen to a word you say.its like they want to make sure there trying to spend the least amount money on you they can get away with.private is my only hope now i suppose

Why did you refuse the X-ray if it could support a referral?
How old are you by the way?
 
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cyberknight

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As long as I breathe, I attack.
Why did you refuse the X-ray if it could support a referral?
How old are you by the way?
although i have had issues with the nhs i would lean towards your thoughts too , my x ray did not show degeneration although my symptoms sound mild in comparison and mine was not seen till an mri
 

vickster

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although i have had issues with the nhs i would lean towards your thoughts too , my x ray did not show degeneration although my symptoms sound mild in comparison and mine was not seen till an mri

X-ray doesn’t show soft tissue issues :smile:
 
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