Legalised Parking on the pavement

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[QUOTE 1913895, member: 45"]Paying for parking on the street?[/quote]


Perish the thought - A bit like a parking permit :thumbsup:
 
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[QUOTE 1913917, member: 45"]...and lots of us don't. That's not what this thread is about.[/quote]

That's because you're middle class and can afford a house with a drive in a nice area though. I'll wager that it even has enough space for the missus and kids cars when they pass their test.
You also don't feel a sense of community or else you'd have not moved away from Brum.
 

Norm

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I think that this thread is getting close to its time too.

Avoid the personal comments and, if someone come up with something original, that'll be great. Otherwise, it is just regurgitating stuff that's been part-digested many times before.
 
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Apology Norm. Perhaps I got a bit close to the knuckle with that one, but I do get frustrated when people object to the way other people live their lives, whilst themselves being in the position to make privileged choices for their families which these residents are unlikely to be able to do.
 

Norm

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No worries... I'm just jealous because we haven't got space on the drive for Tarquin's and Ffion's cars in a couple of years. :giggle:
 
Absolutely not. I think people should attempt to respect the choices others make for whatever reason they do. The argument put across here is there is no justification for having a couple of cars whilst living in a terrace house, and I say different and presented a perfectly plausible argument which many households will face down there. - some middle class cyclist spouts about the kids living there not being able to own a car which they buy and pay all the bills on because they sometimes have to park outside a neighbours house because dad drives for a living and also keeps his car in the street. If I were them I'd say go spin on it.....about 45rpm ;)

Wrong the argument here is the opposite

I think people should attempt to respect the choices others make for whatever reason they do. The argument put across here is there is no justification for being able to walk down the street with a pram or use a wheelchair whilst living in a terrace house, simply because someone else wants to obstruct the path with their car!

Why not respect the right of individuals to use the pavement?
 
No worries... I'm just jealous because we haven't got space on the drive for Tarquin's and Ffion's cars in a couple of years. :giggle:

Entirely your fault!

The pink Shogun with "My little thoroughbred" stickers on the windows is really a bit ostentatious, and as for the spoilers and MAG wheels on Tarquin's Animal branded Warrior.....

You should have bought them Saxos!
 

gambatte

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[QUOTE 1913205, member: 45"]We used to live on a terraced street and had two cars. Sometimes we even had to park one around the corner. Big wows.[/quote]

So you shifted your problem elsewhere then, but will stand in judgement now over the residents there ?

No, not a problem. he couldn't park outside his house so he parked legally elsewhere.
I used to live on a terraced street, In Doncaster and pretty close to a mosque too.....sometimes I couldn't park my car outside the house, sometimes I couldn't park it on the same street. Simple, park it legally a few streets away.

There was a point where I aspired to motorised personal transport, but I was at my parents, money was tight, parking was tight etc. I got a moped, then a motorbike.

BTW. I wonder at these deprived areas and the legality of the cars there. I remember a few months ago a piece of research quoting Bradford and Birmingham as being capitals of vehicles which weren't road legal (can't remember if that was based on insurance or VED). A few years earlier it was Sheffields Manor top quoted as having the biggest concentration of non taxed vehicles. Maybe a blitz on these would reduce the problem?
 
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No, not a problem. he couldn't park outside his house so he parked legally elsewhere.
I used to live on a terraced street, In Doncaster and pretty close to a mosque too.....sometimes I couldn't park my car outside the house, sometimes I couldn't park it on the same street. Simple, park it legally a few streets away.

There was a point where I aspired to motorised personal transport, but I was at my parents, money was tight, parking was tight etc. I got a moped, then a motorbike.

BTW. I wonder at these deprived areas and the legality of the cars there. I remember a few months ago a piece of research quoting Bradford and Birmingham as being capitals of vehicles which weren't road legal (can't remember if that was based on insurance or VED). A few years earlier it was Sheffields Manor top quoted as having the biggest concentration of non taxed vehicles. Maybe a blitz on these would reduce the problem?

And this gives someone else your problem......
 

gambatte

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And this gives someone else your problem......
No, you're assumption is it's a problem. Why's it a problem?
I can't park on my street, I can't park on my street. I'll park legally somewhere else.
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Its only a problem if you assume you have a right to park outside your house. You don't.
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The problem is when I/you/whoever assumes I have a right to park outside my door and park on the pavement or opposite someone so only a Fiat 500 can pass down the road.
 

subaqua

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Uniquely so I suspect!

That is why there are now so many resident's parking schemes and controlled parking areas.


In most residential areas, commuting traffic is becoming a massive issue. Drivers commute the long distance to a town, patk n residential areas to avoid car parking charges and then make the final short trip by other means.

I know of one group who take it in turns to do this. All 5 drive into Portsmouth, park in the residential area, get into one car and that then drives to the workplace. 80% savings on car parking charges!

sadly CPZs just move the problem further along a road. a better option would be decent pubic(sic) transport that can cope with the numbers that the government want to shovel onto it.

I really do wish that the CPZs by us were free for residents and administered sensibly.
 

summerdays

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In my old house we never parked immediately outside our house it was too narrow - the only time was literally to unload something heavy and then immediately move the car. However someone decided to park immediately outside our gate and due to the narrowness - up onto the pavement. I was working in the garden and heard her congratulate herself to her companion on her excellent parking. So I checked with her it was ok to scratch her car when I took out either my bike or the buggy (can't remember which it was) when I left in 10 mins time. She promptly moved the car! And no I couldn't of got out the gate without scratching her car - probably quite badly.

Looking at the original image my immediate thought is trying to walk with a buggy and a toddler - it would be a nightmare. The toddler would be unable to walk beside you and would be unseen by any car driver. We are a one car family - you can share a car. If you are very short of money then it makes sense. At the opposite end of the spectrum I know friends who live in large houses with off street parking in the front garden who share a car with their neighbour or hire a car as necessary and saves money as a result.
 

PK99

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From the scrubbed out double level lines on the LHS of the street in the OP, i suspect residents asked for the parking to be modified as shown
 
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In my old house we never parked immediately outside our house it was too narrow - the only time was literally to unload something heavy and then immediately move the car. However someone decided to park immediately outside our gate and due to the narrowness - up onto the pavement. I was working in the garden and heard her congratulate herself to her companion on her excellent parking. So I checked with her it was ok to scratch her car when I took out either my bike or the buggy (can't remember which it was) when I left in 10 mins time. She promptly moved the car! And no I couldn't of got out the gate without scratching her car - probably quite badly.

Looking at the original image my immediate thought is trying to walk with a buggy and a toddler - it would be a nightmare. The toddler would be unable to walk beside you and would be unseen by any car driver. We are a one car family - you can share a car. If you are very short of money then it makes sense. At the opposite end of the spectrum I know friends who live in large houses with off street parking in the front garden who share a car with their neighbour or hire a car as necessary and saves money as a result.

I appreciate what you are saying as have a couple of now grown up kids and look after one of their 2 year old and so do have to face these problems on a weekly basis, however there is an unobstructed pavement on the other side of the road though. If there were cars straddling that one also, then I would say the wheelchair/pushchair/toddler on foot argument would stand and take presedence. I can think of quite a few roads where there are back gates/garages straight onto the road on one side of it, and then on the other, cars parked, and beyond that a pavement, and then a front door. I don't actually see much of a difference on principle to this, and often see people pushing wheelchairs in the road as the pavements are too uneven for them.
 
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[QUOTE 1914815, member: 45"]...so how do they ensure that the spaces between cars are wide enough to get a wheelchair through? What's the added level of risk of trying to cross a road with a pushchair between parked cars just because someone won't walk 20 metres?[/quote]

I'd have thought that was fairly obvious - Because the cars still need enough space on one end or another to actually get in and out of the parking space :thumbsup: - fish in a barrel this morning ;)
 
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