Stuff you don't need on tour.....

[ufkacbln]

What amuses me is the 200 Mb hard drive!!!!!!!

It was Mahoosive at the time

 

[jay clock]

back to the main man, he has had his first broken spoke after 220 miles...

He has a rival with "a 130 pd bike" which I estimate works out as 40kg of luggage after you take the bike off the total https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1M2&doc_id=19066&v=33#496488

 

[psmiffy]

He has a rival with "a 130 pd bike" which I estimate works out as 40kg of luggage after you take the bike off the total

You are obsessed - they are lightweights - a few years back I was camping at Tournon sur Rhone and had a few beers with a French Canadian who was camping on the next pitch to mine - he was the biggest geezer i've ever seen on a bike - 6'8" and 175kg by his own admission - not what impressed me - in the morning when he was loaded he had the biggest panniers i've ever seen on a bike - the Arc de Triomphe type - the rear one came to about 6" above his saddle - the front one to about the same above the handlebars - he had cycled down from England over the Glockner

 

[jay clock]

@psmiffy you are probably right! Just thinking that on a scale of 0 being super light and 100 being BEHEMOTH man then this one is in the 85+ class. What I worry about is that people like him give up early due to overcooking it. Each to their own. Some people think I over pack

 

[psmiffy]

Im about 145kg to150kg on the road - me - the bike - the luggage - Ive done over 60k km over the last 20yrs - I meet people on the road who have cycled round the world and they are way heavier than me - Its all a matter of mindset - if you are used to zapping along tnen weight will be pure anathema - if are just happy toddling along smelling the roses then it is no big deal - my maxim is that if it goes up - it goes

 

[jay clock]

I am off the same opinion as you. Generally. I weigh 90 kg, bike about 18 at a guess and luggage for camping tour at about 20kg so 128kg. You live and learn! Bike needs to be tough enough for the load though.

A friend did the TransAm last year on a compact double with medium luggage. He didn't listen to me who advised lower gears and suffered badly in the Appalachians. Still made it though!

 

[DanZac]

Must admit that chairs etc have no truck with me when camping. Gave up car camping with gf when it became clear that she wanted to collect a mass of dining room furniture. And there was me enjoying lounging on the sunny grass, at one with the world and nature. Next step, a standard lamp and a hat stand.

I lugged one of those little folding chairs from lands end to JOG and back again. Probably sat on it about 20 times during the whole trip. But boy did I enjoy sitting in it watching the sun go down at JOG, worth it just for that and it was a blessing on the days when it had rained and the grass was wet which was the other 19 times.
Probably would'nt bother with one again though.

 

[Blue Hills]

Can see the attraction of one drinkig a glassc of red, but otherwise a sit mat/unfurled poncho would do me.

 

[Crackle]

I quite like his chair and table, I think they're pretty cool and quite light if you've seen them in the flesh.

 

[jay clock]

I'll confess
I have got one of those chairs. I love it but can never bring myself to take it on tour!

 

[Dave Davenport]

We've taken a pair of Chinese Helinox copies (£25 each from flea bay), for the last three years, wouldn't be without them now.

 

[Crackle]

We've taken a pair of Chinese Helinox copies (£25 each from flea bay), for the last three years, wouldn't be without them now.

I recall you posting the link to them but by the time I got around to trying to buy one, they'd gone.

 

[Dave Davenport]

I recall you posting the link to them but by the time I got around to trying to buy one, they'd gone.

Yep, haven't seen the knock off ones for ages, maybe Helinox stopped them (don't know if that's possible).The only thing I foresee failing on them is the socket bit the poles fit into (which is plastic), if it does I'll probably try machining some myself out of an aluminium billet.

 

[RobinS]

We have been using the Chinese Helinox look-a-like chairs from Ebay for a couple of years with no problems, but have recently noticed that Mountainwarehouse now stock them for £29.99, and Go-Outdoors for rather more.

 

[andrew_s]

Yep, haven't seen the knock off ones for ages, maybe Helinox stopped them (don't know if that's possible).

That's probably because you've not looked. Down to less than £10 now.
The genuine Helinox versions quote a considerably higher max weight than the 100kg of the knock off versions.