tax insurance & cycling

[User269]

And still it goes on.

 

[User269]

Forever and ever.

 

[User269]

Until the end of time.

 

[TheDoctor]

Amen.

 

[User269]

And still people don't get it.

 

[User269]

We live in hope. And on the third day.......................

 

[Profpointy]

Not helped by referring to VED as road tax to begin with

yebutt it is "road tax" which certain classes of vehicle users have to pay to be allowed to use the road. Just like we have petrol tax, beer tax and income tax

 

[steveindenmark]

Yeah but you have all that foul white crap in the winter I'd rather deal with the occasional moton than snow!!

We get about the same amount of snow as the UK...if not less. I think you are imagining Norway and not Denmark.

 

[steveindenmark]

Expensive, Denmark! As Noel Coward didn't say (sfaik).

Its relative to salary. If you buy new vehicles it is expensive but our housing is a lot cheaper than the UK. In fact the UK is so expensive for housing, that I couldn't return if I wanted to.

Thankfully, I dont. <O)

Thankfully,

 

[smutchin]

If insuring a car was not compulsory in order to drive on UK roads, my guess is, most drivers would not have insurance!

Around 1 million cars on UK roads are uninsured. That's nearly 3% of the 37 million cars out there.

https://www.mib.org.uk/media-centre...tional-operation-to-tackle-uninsured-driving/

If they can't enforce it for cars, god knows how they would enforce it for bikes.

 

[ufkacbln]

I know taxing cars is basically an emissions tax these days, all I was trying to say to the people having the discussion was if bicycles were taxable then there are other vehicles that deserve to be taxed more.

The point is that if they were taxed, then they would be classed as Band A

 

[mjr]

I have house hold insurance, what's the best way to get third party on a bike please?

Check your policy and if they've not included it, change the provider when you renew. Household third party not only covers you for cycling, but also for walking, gardening, fixing your drive and tons of other things you do both at home and beyond. It's an element of home insurance which you'll probably never need but it's really useful if you do.

Or LCC. Used to be under a tenner for just 3rd party. That said the BC Halfords discount can quickly add up to cover the membership

It is still just under a tenner http://lcc.org.uk/pages/third-party-liability-insurance and BC's support for Half-odds is a pretty poor showing - support your local bike shops!

Wasn't it one of the big catalysts for change in the Netherlands?

Nope. It was only introduced in 1994

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDrG1wuPtK0
- things like Sustainable Safety and Vision Zero designs are much more important. I doubt people think about potential liability much while driving.

Edit: oh dear it's on http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/30/liability-laws-will-make-people-drive-safely

We get about the same amount of snow as the UK...if not less. I think you are imagining Norway and not Denmark.

But they're just the same, like Wales and Scotland! (apologies to people who don't watch QI)

 

[vickster]

We get about the same amount of snow as the UK...if not less. I think you are imagining Norway and not Denmark.

No snow to speak of in London in last few years, thankfully
Can't bear cold weather either!

 

[smutchin]

Nope. It was only introduced in 1994

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDrG1wuPtK0
- things like Sustainable Safety and Vision Zero designs are much more important. I doubt people think about potential liability much while driving.

Edit: oh dear it's on http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/30/liability-laws-will-make-people-drive-safely

Cool. I still think strict liability would be a good thing, just not for that reason any more!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Wasn't it one of the big catalysts for change in the Netherlands

That is a comment misconception; the big catalyst for change came in 1973 with the Stop der Kindermord movement. The strict liability laws only started 19 years later, in 1992, quite some time after safe cycling routes had been established and the death rates lowered.