This really annoyed me

[col]

Hmm, I see - well, hear - the cyclist slowing down and I see the bus accelerating on the wrong side of the road towards an oncoming cyclist.

Hmm well done

 

[col]

You're flat wrong. You can't tell the exact situation from the video, but there wasn't plenty of time to stop. I definitely slowed down, and most certainly didn't increase speed. He is the one that pulled out into the opposite side, not me, so the responsibility for the situation is his.



If you don't think that pulling out into the opposite side of the road when there is oncoming traffic isn't bad driving, then you are an idiot.

There was no oncoming traffic when he pulled out, yes Iv been called that before too

 

[Cubist]

You seem to be contradicting yourself, saying he was simply waiting for the car to clear, or also he did see you and imposed his might. You call him a complete runt for what its worth too. Seems to me you already dislike him, not knowing him or even not knowing the facts of his decision to move out. So in actual fact your discriminating because its a bus. Mmmmm anger classes needed methinks

Nothing to do with the fact it's a bus, size aside. Get over yourself!

It was a bit of bully-boy driving. Benb had to change speed or direction as a result of the bus driver's actions, so it was inconsiderate driving. Doesn't matter what he was driving. I totally agree with your assertion that a cyclist should take evasive action to avoid an accident, but that does NOT mean submitting to intimidatory, careless or inconsiderate driving.

The bus was NOT making reasonable progress, it was waiting for the car to clear. He either failed to spot benb, (careless, insufficient observation) or saw him and decided that he didn't matter, and pulled out anyway (inconsiderate).

 

[benb]

Fraid so

Unfortunately for everyone else on the road, judging by what you consider good driving.

 

[benb]

There was no oncoming traffic when he pulled out, yes Iv been called that before too

Yes there was - me.

 

[Cubist]

There was no oncoming traffic when he pulled out, yes Iv been called that before too

There was oncoming traffic. There was a bicycle.

It's not about who gets to the gap first, it's about who can proceed safely without inconveniencing or endangering others. If you believe the bus driver was in the right in this instance I would suggest you need a bit of driver training.

 

[col]

There was oncoming traffic. There was a bicycle.

It's not about who gets to the gap first, it's about who can proceed safely without inconveniencing or endangering others. If you believe the bus driver was in the right in this instance I would suggest you need a bit of driver training.

Dont you read all the posts. Im saying the cyclist had a choice on how he handled it. He chose the dangerous way.

Yes there was - me.

When you chose to carry on yes there was

 

[col]

Unfortunately for everyone else on the road, judging by what you consider good driving.

I see, so I cant question your choice of action that you publish for all to see , and I presume to be debated, without being called a bad driver? Because your not getting the replies you want. To be expected I suppose

 

[benb]

Dont you read all the posts. Im saying the cyclist had a choice on how he handled it. He chose the dangerous way.

When you chose to carry on yes there was

It was the bus driver that chose to bring the danger to that situation.

I suppose we should all dive out of the way of larger vehicles, perhaps tugging our forelock and apologising for inconveniencing them at all?

 

[col]

Nothing to do with the fact it's a bus, size aside. Get over yourself!

It was a bit of bully-boy driving. Benb had to change speed or direction as a result of the bus driver's actions, so it was inconsiderate driving. Doesn't matter what he was driving. I totally agree with your assertion that a cyclist should take evasive action to avoid an accident, but that does NOT mean submitting to intimidatory, careless or inconsiderate driving.

The bus was NOT making reasonable progress, it was waiting for the car to clear. He either failed to spot benb, (careless, insufficient observation) or saw him and decided that he didn't matter, and pulled out anyway (inconsiderate).

So which do you think it was?

 

[mr_hippo]

When you look at the vid, its not actually a do or die situation, he had time to stop, but he decided to carry on.

Oh but Col, it was! Look at about 12 seconds; he had time to wave to the driver and say thanks. If it were you or I and indeed countless other cyclists, we would have kept both hands on the bars to maintain control and also had the brakes covered.

 

[benb]

I see, so I cant question your choice of action that you publish for all to see , and I presume to be debated, without being called a bad driver? Because your not getting the replies you want. To be expected I suppose

Not at all - I am perfecntly happy for anyone to question my actions. Don't be so sensitive.

But you said that the bus driver pulling out into oncoming traffic wasn't bad driving, which was what prompted my comment above. If that's what you consider acceptable driving, I'm glad I don't cycle near you.

 

[col]

It was the bus driver that chose to bring the danger to that situation.

I suppose we should all dive out of the way of larger vehicles, perhaps tugging our forelock and apologising for inconveniencing them at all?

Ah it becomes clearer, you have a chip on your shoulder with larger vehicles progressing, and you having to slow or stop for them?

 

[Cubist]

So which do you think it was?

I have no idea, but it was one or the other. There may have been a third possibility, such as astral travel or alien abduction, but I'm trying to be realistic here.

What's your point?

 

[benb]

Oh but Col, it was! Look at about 12 seconds; he had time to wave to the driver and say thanks. If it were you or I and indeed countless other cyclists, we would have kept both hands on the bars to maintain control and also had the brakes covered.

I've already said I shouldn't have taken a hand off the bar. I'm quite happy to hold my hands up (haha) when I have done something wrong.