mgarl10024
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To those who use a helmet camera in London
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brokenbetty
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"I'm not here to defend bad cyclists any more than you are here to defend bad drivers. I'm here to ask why so many skilled, law abiding cyclists think the general standard of UK driving is so bad that they are taking it on themselves to monitor it."
Motoring Journalist: "yeah but cyclistis jump re..."
Magnatom "Look - could we please not bring this discussion into the gutter by lumping all cyclists together - no one here is going on saying ALL drivers break the speed limit, drive whilst on the phone, park on double yellows - I'm no more defending the actions of idiots who happen to ride a bike than I would, as a driver, defend those idiots driving a car. Those idiots behind the wheel are also a threat to us as drivers and pedestrians so why would you have a problem with doing something about it?"
"Oh an regarding the tax thing - can we please just put that one to bed FOREVER? VED doesn't pay for the roads. We all do, even if we don't drive OR ride a bike".
Magnatom "Look - could we please not bring this discussion into the gutter by lumping all cyclists together - no one here is going on saying ALL drivers break the speed limit, drive whilst on the phone, park on double yellows - I'm no more defending the actions of idiots who happen to ride a bike than I would, as a driver, defend those idiots driving a car. Those idiots behind the wheel are also a threat to us as drivers and pedestrians so why would you have a problem with doing something about it?"
"Oh an regarding the tax thing - can we please just put that one to bed FOREVER? VED doesn't pay for the roads. We all do, even if we don't drive OR ride a bike".
brokenbetty
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Oh, and...
"Let's put our money where our months are. I'll stand in front of a light jumping cyclist, you stand in front of a driver on their mobile, then we can compare bruises."
"Let's put our money where our months are. I'll stand in front of a light jumping cyclist, you stand in front of a driver on their mobile, then we can compare bruises."
Simon_m
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HLaB
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Cheers, I hope magnatom is on early I don't think I'll stay up to 1 am ;-)
mgarl10024
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I've asked the media centre to pick it up, so I'm hoping he can hint at a time that he's on so I don't have to listen to it all!
Probably teaching you to suck eggs but don't forget it'll be on iPlayer.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
[QUOTE 1299700"]
All this helmet camera business is giving me a headache. I feel that some people will have an incident, think WTF and go out and buy a camera rather then looking at and analysing their own riding.
Having a camera does not excuse piss poor cyling, should never stop you looking at your own riding and you will (at times) be in the wrong. Just a wee bit of advice for anyone looking to go out and buy one - just think.
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Wouldn't a post hoc analysis be made all the more illuminating with the addition of a video clip?
All this helmet camera business is giving me a headache. I feel that some people will have an incident, think WTF and go out and buy a camera rather then looking at and analysing their own riding.
Having a camera does not excuse piss poor cyling, should never stop you looking at your own riding and you will (at times) be in the wrong. Just a wee bit of advice for anyone looking to go out and buy one - just think.
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Wouldn't a post hoc analysis be made all the more illuminating with the addition of a video clip?
Mad at urage
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[QUOTE 1299700"]
All this helmet camera business is giving me a headache. I feel that some people will have an incident, think WTF and go out and buy a camera rather then looking at and analysing their own riding.
Having a camera does not excuse piss poor cyling, should never stop you looking at your own riding and you will (at times) be in the wrong. Just a wee bit of advice for anyone looking to go out and buy one - just think.
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OTOH a camera can be a good tool for looking back at your own riding in the calm of the evening (without the adrenalin which accompanies hard cycling), and analysing your decisions for potential faults.
All this helmet camera business is giving me a headache. I feel that some people will have an incident, think WTF and go out and buy a camera rather then looking at and analysing their own riding.
Having a camera does not excuse piss poor cyling, should never stop you looking at your own riding and you will (at times) be in the wrong. Just a wee bit of advice for anyone looking to go out and buy one - just think.
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OTOH a camera can be a good tool for looking back at your own riding in the calm of the evening (without the adrenalin which accompanies hard cycling), and analysing your decisions for potential faults.
downfader
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I have just sent a complaint to the BBC moderators over the comments on the following page:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12334486#dna-comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12334486#dna-comments
Glow worm
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All the best for the interview- I listen to Livesey most nights as I'm a lousy sleeper - and he's generally a pretty fair interviewer, laid back too. I've never heard him mention that he cycles, but you never know. You could tell a small white lie and tell him you're a Burnley fan- he'll be your best pal forever!
Hopefully you'll get a chance to shatter the pig ignorant 'Road Tax' bo**ocks motons are constantly throwing at us. And all the RLJ crap. Honestly, I sometimes wonder how some of these knuckle draggers can really be so utterly thick. I can't imagine most of them are capable of wiping their own a*ses, let alone drive a car.
Safe trip home from Boston - Lincolnshire's a fine county
For Magnatom
In the heat of a debate you need to have the automatic replies
If he mentions:
RLJ - you counter wiith - Mobiles
No Lights = Speeding
Pavments = Drunk Driving
Insurance = Insurance
Tax = we pay etc. you need a snappy answer to this one. I use "Cyclists like horses and pedestrians have a RIGHT to use our roads, motorists however require an annual licence for permission to use our roads" and you can add "Motorists have no right to use the road"
Getting in the way of cars= See tax above
And if he brings the whole lot up in one go, then you need a line someting like "you find me a single motorist that has never speeded, or accidently gone through a red light, or answerd a mobile call or driven without insurance or tax or drunk and I'll give you a liar"
In the heat of a debate you need to have the automatic replies
If he mentions:
RLJ - you counter wiith - Mobiles
No Lights = Speeding
Pavments = Drunk Driving
Insurance = Insurance
Tax = we pay etc. you need a snappy answer to this one. I use "Cyclists like horses and pedestrians have a RIGHT to use our roads, motorists however require an annual licence for permission to use our roads" and you can add "Motorists have no right to use the road"
Getting in the way of cars= See tax above
And if he brings the whole lot up in one go, then you need a line someting like "you find me a single motorist that has never speeded, or accidently gone through a red light, or answerd a mobile call or driven without insurance or tax or drunk and I'll give you a liar"
