skudupnorth
Cycling Skoda lover
- Location
- Astley,Manchester
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To those who use a helmet camera in London
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downfader
extimus uero philosophus
- Location
- 'ampsheeeer
If you comply with the law, as I'm sure you do, why should you be labled the same as the lawbreakers? This is the point I'm making. I'm certainly not defending the idiots, far from it. Those who see this behaviour know it to be a limited amount of cyclists (even in London).
I dont understand what you mean by "both ways" when all we need is one way - the legal way (with an understanding of what legal actually is).
When we have DFT figures showing that 93% of cyclists are not to blame for the collisions they end up in with motorists it tells you that something is going wrong. It is at stark contrast to what the people say on the web, in the phone-ins and on the TV.
addictfreak
Guru
- Location
- Boldon, Tyne and Wear
Of course the law abiding cyclists shouldnt be labled in the same way. But you only have to look a posts on this forum, to find many who put all drivers in the same category.
The both ways comment is a bit of a generalisation, there are certainly cyclists out there who are happy to RLJ and pavement ride, go up the inside of HGVs but still complain the about drivers and protection from the law.
Theres nothing that annoys me more than bad driving that affects cyclists. But when drivers are complying with the law and driving in the manor we like to see, you can understand them getting aggitated when certain cyclists please themselves. And they are fully entitled to their opinion, just as we are. Some are just idiots of course, who will come out with any old crap.
skudupnorth
Cycling Skoda lover
- Location
- Astley,Manchester
Fantastic news,cannot wait to see that.
Sadly I feel we appear a minority of cycle users, possibly because if a cyclist is passed and is doing nothing wrong, they're not remembered. I cycle, run or drive into work, depending on how I feel. Approx 7.5 miles each way. After todays program I noted 3 bikes on the way in. 1 textbook 'good' cyclist. 1 similar, but understandably on the pavement (tight fast road and along an industrial area. No peds or side roads). Third was a 'all the gear and no idea' apart from the gear he didn't have was any kind of light.
Tonights 9 mile run, I noted 7. 2 groups of 3 youths on dirt jumpers/bmx and one bloke, I assumed, on his way home from work. Not a light amongst them. One of the groups of kids was riding on the road, counter to traffic and pulling stunts.
End of the day, its not the textbook cyclist at the start of the day I remember.....
Tonights 9 mile run, I noted 7. 2 groups of 3 youths on dirt jumpers/bmx and one bloke, I assumed, on his way home from work. Not a light amongst them. One of the groups of kids was riding on the road, counter to traffic and pulling stunts.
End of the day, its not the textbook cyclist at the start of the day I remember.....
iamanidiot
New Member
When you look at the comments on the BBC article, you can't help but feel that the actual intention of the article was to cause a bickering war rather than get something acheived. Still it's incredible (and scary) that some people (who presumably, are not violent themselves) would genuinely appear to think that when Ben was assaulted that he brought it upon himself. It's like the people that think that women are asking to be raped when they wear anything remotely revealing.
Lell
New Member
- Location
- Altrincham
Trailer for 5 live: "We've got cyclists at war with motorists"
Jesus.
Jesus.
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
Looks like my email to them (Beeb) worked.
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As a news provider and airer of topical subjects, would it be at all possible to broadcast a film on cycling from the perspective of a cyclist for once? Is it too much to ask of the 'great' motoring public to take a little time and care in their driving aroung vulnerable road users like cyclists - not to mention pedestrians and horse riders? "It's not a race, give me space" It would be appreciated if a film were done without the motorist viewpoint of taxation being bandied around and instead focused on the real life issues facing cyclists. It could include interviews with leading campainers, talk to victims of 'accidents' (it grates me to use that word) and to families of (less fortunate) victims left behind to pick up the pieces. Hopefully it could show a human side to the tragedy, and for once show these victims were not law breaking ne'er do wells and red-light-jumping maniacs as some news agencies would make you believe? With the 2012 Olympics coming up, Britain is poised to do well in the cycling events - wouldn't it be nice to make life a little easier for everyday cyclists with a bit of press from a cyclists perspective on the roads of the UK? The health and fitness benefits of cycling go without saying, as do the 'Green' credentials. We just need the motoring public in the UK to have a wake-up call in relation to the road safety aspect - and for them to re-assume their personal responsibility for the safety of other road users - especially vulnerable ones. Sadly this year, a number of cyclists have already paid the ultimate price for their choice of transport - and their number include an Ex-British Champion boxer, and a potential 2012 Olympic cyclist. I ask you to consider this - Stop the CARnage - Save a Cyclist! Kind regards, Un Quote
I copied and pasted the same email to them a day later when a cyclist was killed.
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http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Cyclist-killed-in-crash-on-A38.htm Another cyclist.....and another family ripped apart by grief, for what?
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As a news provider and airer of topical subjects, would it be at all possible to broadcast a film on cycling from the perspective of a cyclist for once? Is it too much to ask of the 'great' motoring public to take a little time and care in their driving aroung vulnerable road users like cyclists - not to mention pedestrians and horse riders? "It's not a race, give me space" It would be appreciated if a film were done without the motorist viewpoint of taxation being bandied around and instead focused on the real life issues facing cyclists. It could include interviews with leading campainers, talk to victims of 'accidents' (it grates me to use that word) and to families of (less fortunate) victims left behind to pick up the pieces. Hopefully it could show a human side to the tragedy, and for once show these victims were not law breaking ne'er do wells and red-light-jumping maniacs as some news agencies would make you believe? With the 2012 Olympics coming up, Britain is poised to do well in the cycling events - wouldn't it be nice to make life a little easier for everyday cyclists with a bit of press from a cyclists perspective on the roads of the UK? The health and fitness benefits of cycling go without saying, as do the 'Green' credentials. We just need the motoring public in the UK to have a wake-up call in relation to the road safety aspect - and for them to re-assume their personal responsibility for the safety of other road users - especially vulnerable ones. Sadly this year, a number of cyclists have already paid the ultimate price for their choice of transport - and their number include an Ex-British Champion boxer, and a potential 2012 Olympic cyclist. I ask you to consider this - Stop the CARnage - Save a Cyclist! Kind regards, Un Quote
I copied and pasted the same email to them a day later when a cyclist was killed.
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http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Cyclist-killed-in-crash-on-A38.htm Another cyclist.....and another family ripped apart by grief, for what?
totallyfixed
Veteran
- Location
- The only county without a McDonalds
Hey, good luck mag, I could be wrong but isn't Berry a motorcyclist? At least if that is the case you will get some empathy and you may be able to use that if he starts ranting. Can anyone verify this?
Oh great so once again the BBC feel the need to have a 'balanced' argument by having some opinionated blowhard representing the views of the motorist and turn the debate into a 'war' where someone decides they have to win and the listeners take sides, rather than a constructive discussion where people actually learn things and potentially even make things better for everyone. Shame on the BBC.
Next up on the BBC we'll be discussing how many black britons still feel disadvantaged in modern society despite the improvements in racial tolerance. We'll be speaking to Joe, who's parents moved here from Jamaica in the 1960s about his experiences, and the experiences of his children growing up as 3rd generation black britons. And, in the interest of balance we'll have Nick Griffin to share his views.
Next up on the BBC we'll be discussing how many black britons still feel disadvantaged in modern society despite the improvements in racial tolerance. We'll be speaking to Joe, who's parents moved here from Jamaica in the 1960s about his experiences, and the experiences of his children growing up as 3rd generation black britons. And, in the interest of balance we'll have Nick Griffin to share his views.
Following on from that is The Sky At Night where Sir Patrick Moore will be joined by Terence Philingsworth of the Royal Society to discuss the affect of the sun on the earth's interaction with the cosmos. And in the interest of balance, we'll have David McPipehelm of the Infinite Cone Sun Society who believe that the sun is a flat plane visible from the front, whereas the rear is an cone leading off into an infinite singularity.
