Torx...why?

[simon.r]

Just to complicate things a bit more, a look thorough my Torx bits reveals some with 6 points and some with 5:

I think the 6 point is standard torx, so what is the 5 point? I must have had cause to buy the 5 point but I can’t remember what for. They’re marked as TS(number).

Edit - I think the 5 point may have been bought to use on a modern Triumph motorbike. Not sure.

 

[midlife]

Sorry, was just reminded of this

Back on topic .......

 

[mjr]

Just to complicate things a bit more, a look thorough my Torx bits reveals some with 6 points and some with 5:

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I think the 6 point is standard torx, so what is the 5 point? I must have had cause to buy the 5 point but I can’t remember what for. They’re marked as TS(number).

Edit - I think the 5 point may have been bought to use on a modern Triumph motorbike. Not sure.

Torx Star.

The lovely thing about standards is there are so many to choose from and they're all flawed.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Just to complicate things a bit more, a look thorough my Torx bits reveals some with 6 points and some with 5:

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I think the 6 point is standard torx, so what is the 5 point? I must have had cause to buy the 5 point but I can’t remember what for. They’re marked as TS(number).

Edit - I think the 5 point may have been bought to use on a modern Triumph motorbike. Not sure.

I think it's "security torx-plus". Apprently they have only 5 lobes (unlike the regular torx-plus) and a central pin.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

The lovely thing about standards is there are so many to choose from and they're all flawed.

 

[mjr]

Which is why we should scrap socket screws altogether. External torx anyone?
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I think after it's corroded, those fins could snap off. What would be good is if it was straight sided between the points of the fins...

 

[keithmac]

Which is why we should scrap socket screws altogether. External torx anyone?
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BMW use these on motorcycle caliper bolts etc, they are a very good fastener.

20+ years of working on motorcycles and battling againts steel fasteners into aluminium frames/ engine casings etc has made me very greatfull of torx fittings.

Allen head fasteners are pants and the bane of my life (no exaggeration).

 

[Profpointy]

Anyone seen a ratchet torx screwdriver - t25 say? I might adopt torx woodscrewes domestically - if and only if I can get a sensibel spear and jackson type ratchet (hand) screwdriver. One of my better buys a few years back was an assorter box of top quality pozi woodscrews from axminster - giving me screws of every likely size for house jobs,saving a b&q trip each time. Once a compartment emptied I bought a hundred new screws in that size. Such a timesavee. Axminster are now pimping a bargain box of stainless torx headed woodscrews but need a ratchet screwdriver really to make them convenient. Never felt the need for a battery drill / driver. I have non ratcher torx drivers but a ratchet is handy for woodwork / diy

 

[Profpointy]

[QUOTE 5123130, member: 259"]my ratchet takes torx bits.[/QUOTE]

Not quite the same thing. I too have ratchets taking torx bits including a half decent facom set, but a dedicated t25 ratchet akin to the ubiquitous woodworkers spear and jackson pozi 2 ratchet is what I'm really afte

 

[ADarkDraconis]

Anyone seen a ratchet torx screwdriver - t25 say? I might adopt torx woodscrewes domestically - if and only if I can get a sensibel spear and jackson type ratchet (hand) screwdriver. One of my better buys a few years back was an assorter box of top quality pozi woodscrews from axminster - giving me screws of every likely size for house jobs,saving a b&q trip each time. Once a compartment emptied I bought a hundred new screws in that size. Such a timesavee. Axminster are now pimping a bargain box of stainless torx headed woodscrews but need a ratchet screwdriver really to make them convenient. Never felt the need for a battery drill / driver. I have non ratcher torx drivers but a ratchet is handy for woodwork / diy

I have both a Craftsman and a Stanley ratcheting screwdriver (the Stanley has fared better, Craftsman isn't what it used to be) and torx bits for them; also have used them on my drill with my adapter. I would be interested in a non-arm-plus-leg priced set of longer torx, but they are so expensive. When I have a specific need my boss lets me borrow the security bits kit we have at work.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Anyone seen a ratchet torx screwdriver - t25 say? I might adopt torx woodscrewes domestically - if and only if I can get a sensibel spear and jackson type ratchet (hand) screwdriver. One of my better buys a few years back was an assorter box of top quality pozi woodscrews from axminster - giving me screws of every likely size for house jobs,saving a b&q trip each time. Once a compartment emptied I bought a hundred new screws in that size. Such a timesavee. Axminster are now pimping a bargain box of stainless torx headed woodscrews but need a ratchet screwdriver really to make them convenient. Never felt the need for a battery drill / driver. I have non ratcher torx drivers but a ratchet is handy for woodwork / diy

Shockingly, I've never actually used torx wood screws. I think there might not be much advantage when driving by hand though? It's easy to keep alignment and forward pressure with a screwdriver so posidrive is ok.

Is that Axminster set on sale? If so can you send me a link as I can't see it.

 

[flake99please]

Regarding t bar torx drivers: I'm struggling to find a good name brand set at even a semi acceptable price. I've got a set of superb facom allen keys at a buttock clenching £70+ which were just about worth it and get used a fair bit but the equivalent torx set was nearly £200 which really is a bit much - and facom (for instance) don't even seem to do a set.

Regarding those pooh poohing allen bolts - traditionally socket cap screws tended to be a higher grade than normal bolts, although that isn't per se a feature of the design

Bondhus come with a lifetime warranty, and are very reasonably priced. This was the first item I saw on Google, so you may find a cheaper price elsewhere...

 

[Tin Pot]

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Yeah, you have to force people. Introduce governance and punishment regimes otherwise they do random stuff all day long.

 

[Pale Rider]

Bondhus come with a lifetime warranty, and are very reasonably priced. This was the first item I saw on Google, so you may find a cheaper price elsewhere...

I have a Park Tools set of individual torx keys which looks like a Bondhus rebrand.

Mine doesn't immediately come up on google, but SJS has a T-handle Park set for £40.

For most uses a £15 'folding', ie multi-tool type set would do.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Madison-Fo..._2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=GZC94R9W78RR7Z0QZD6H

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/park-tool-pht1-phandled-star-torx-key-wrench-set-t68101520253040/

 

[Profpointy]

Bondhus come with a lifetime warranty, and are very reasonably priced. This was the first item I saw on Google, so you may find a cheaper price elsewhere...

I was semi tempted by those, bondhus being very much a pukka make

My lovely facom allen key set are these so the torx equivalent was what really fancied, but those bondhus ones do seem good