Use of electric bikes by younger people.

[steveindenmark]

What is the matter with OP?

Electric or not. Its just a bike. What does it matter what anyone rides? Electric bikes are not only for the aged or infirm, they are for everyone who wants to use them. There are electric mountain bikes, electric Road bikes. Does he think they are designed to run down the corner shop for a pint of milk?

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

My thoughts are the base product is pennies on both, the handling costs through the supply chain could be more for cycle stuff as they sell fewer of them.

Same goes for loads of cycling stuff. Take carbon fibre frames for example. Most of them are mass-produced in the same far-East factories, and they embody much the same raw materials.
However, there is a vast difference in the price of a frame from someone like Planet-X, and one of the "premium" cycling brand names. Very little of this difference is going to be based on actual cost differences, and a lot will be down to marketing spend, sponsorship, and high mark-ups, depending whose logo ends up on the down tube..

 

[screenman]

What is the matter with OP?

Electric or not. Its just a bike. What does it matter what anyone rides? Electric bikes are not only for the aged or infirm, they are for everyone who wants to use them. There are electric mountain bikes, electric Road bikes. Does he think they are designed to run down the corner shop for a pint of milk?

No he thinks youngsters who use them are lazy, I disagree.

 

[matticus]

No he thinks youngsters who use them are lazy, I disagree.

Well in some cases I'm sure they ARE. But are they as lazy as their colleagues/peers who drive everywhere? I doubt it!

 

[Deleted member 26715]

My thoughts are the base product is pennies on both, the handling costs through the supply chain could be more for cycle stuff as they sell fewer of them.

There is that, although like any profitable business it charges the highest amount of money for a product that the market will support & as long as their customers are gullible enough to go along with it, just feel a lot of stuff is overpriced.

What is the matter with OP?

Electric or not. Its just a bike. What does it matter what anyone rides? Electric bikes are not only for the aged or infirm, they are for everyone who wants to use them. There are electric mountain bikes, electric Road bikes. Does he think they are designed to run down the corner shop for a pint of milk?

Nah he knew eactly what he was doing, he lit the blue touch paper & retired

 

[mudsticks]

What is the matter with OP?

Electric or not. Its just a bike. What does it matter what anyone rides? Electric bikes are not only for the aged or infirm, they are for everyone who wants to use them. There are electric mountain bikes, electric Road bikes. Does he think they are designed to run down the corner shop for a pint of milk?

Bored, I suspect.

No he thinks youngsters who use them are lazy, I disagree.

Well c'mon, its been well known since the beginning of forever that 'the youth of today' are lazy, selfish, good for nothing unruly louts, who will be the downfall of civilisation..

 

[FrankCrank]

....these leccy bikes - what's the best saddle for them, and what's the best lubricant to use on the chain?

 

[CXRAndy]

I suspect the OP has garnered that E-bikes are extremely well received by the mob we call 'cyclists'

Millions of E-bikes are being sold in countries like Holland, Germany, which are massively into their cycling already. Non powered bikes will possibly become the minority in not too distant future

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

No he thinks youngsters who use them are lazy, I disagree.

I'm inclined to agree with the OP. Mind you, the whole population are generally pretty lazy, IMHO. The majority of all the age groups don't have much to be proud of when it comes to doing dumb things like driving a quarter of a mile to the paper shop or jumping on a bus for only two or three stops. Most times, over short distances the quickest means of transport are walking or riding.

 

[mudsticks]

....these leccy bikes - what's the best saddle for them, and what's the best lubricant to use on the chain?

In the laid bad spirit of the thing I'm intending to have one a bit like this..

 

[Drago]

What is the matter with OP?

Electric or not. Its just a bike. What does it matter what anyone rides? Electric bikes are not only for the aged or infirm, they are for everyone who wants to use them. There are electric mountain bikes, electric Road bikes. Does he think they are designed to run down the corner shop for a pint of milk?

That's a fair observation. One of the biggest problems with this country is that people seem incapable of keeping their noses out of other peoples business, more often than not while simultaneously doing something wrong themselves. Unless they're endangering people or downright breaking a law, I couldn't give much of a sheet what people spend their money on.

Going back to the OP, ebike's don't appeal to me right this moment, where even in my 50's I can still crack out average speeds North of 20MPH over 20 or 25 miles. But were I a teenager of today, raised on a diet of gaming and prick-prick-ping dinners, then an ebike is most assuredly better exercise that I might otherwise be getting so I shan't condemn them for that. I'd be happier still to see them all riding regular bikes and getting even fitter still, but whether I like it or not society has moved on (for the worse in that particular regard, but moved on nevertheless) and that's now an unrealistic goal.

 

[Electric_Andy]

illegal electric scooter use, they are not legal in the UK to be used on either the road or the footpath.

This is the only gripe I have, scooters (or e-bikes that aren't road legal) being ridden in the wrong place. There is a reson these rules are in place; to prevent someone with no vehicle training/tests from jumping on a 40mph machine and killing someone, and having no insurance

 

[screenman]

Same goes for loads of cycling stuff. Take carbon fibre frames for example. Most of them are mass-produced in the same far-East factories, and they embody much the same raw materials.
However, there is a vast difference in the price of a frame from someone like Planet-X, and one of the "premium" cycling brand names. Very little of this difference is going to be based on actual cost differences, and a lot will be down to marketing spend, sponsorship, and high mark-ups, depending whose logo ends up on the down tube..

R&D costs?

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Very little of this difference is going to be based on actual cost differences, and a lot will be down to marketing spend, sponsorship, and high mark-ups, depending whose logo ends up on the down tube..

Yes

R&D costs?

No

 

[screenman]

Yes
No

Is that R&D have no cost