Why are most modern bikes ugly?

Discussion in 'Vintage and Classic Bikes' started by SkipdiverJohn, 22 Jan 2018.

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    SkipdiverJohn

    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

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    I agree with the bit about CF frames having more variation than steel, but I don't think all conventional triangulated steel frames look the same at all. I own several steel bikes, none of which you could remotely call exotic, but nonetheless there are noticeable visible differences between them in terms of frame geometry and construction. One of my MTB's in particular, clearly has some old-school heavy roadster DNA in it's head and seat tube angles; it looks massively different to a steel racing bike from the same era with steep frame angles and a short wheelbase. If all my bikes had their decals removed and were all painted in an identical colour, I would still be able to immediately recognise which one was which just from looking at the frame silhouettes.
     
  2. Drago

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    The sad thing is that by and large it isn't technology moving forward. Most of the changes are driven by marketing and the need to keep selling 'new' models.
     
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    Rampant Consumerism. The same reason most car manufacturers endlessly make totally pointless changes to things like the light clusters and front grille, so your brand new car looks visibly "old" a year after you bought it.
     
  4. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    Without which there would be far fewer jobs in the world. I like choices.
     
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    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

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    Do you enjoy being ripped off though? Selling someone a product one minute then cosmetically changing it frequently for no other reason than to make your recent purchase look old hat amounts to a deliberate destruction of the residual value of the thing you bought. It's a very questionable practice., and the "choice" is made for you by the manufacturer not wanting you to get years of service out of your new item.
     
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    screenman Legendary Member

    I said I like choice, does not mean I follow fashions. If you all only bought what we needed to live and not what we wanted would you have a job, I doubt many would. Designers and sales people create jobs.
     
  7. Smokin Joe

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    I've had new cars in the past when my job (ADI) required it. My practice now is to buy at under a grand and run them till they'll run no more. Even with an annual mileage of around 20k that practice has stood me in good stead for the last fourteen years (With the exception of a Rover 200 I paid £350 for, another £70 to replace the windscreen and owned for a whole week before the fecking head gasket blew).
     
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    screenman Legendary Member

    If other people did not buy where would yours come from.
     
  9. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    It needs people to buy second hand in order to make new car buying attractive. You wouldn't pay north of 10k for a car that was worthless when you wanted to change it.

    The market needs all types of player to work.
     
  10. Ciar

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    Give me a modern MTB over an old one any day of the week, so much nicer to ride compared to the old and i just prefer the look of them.

    whereas i would happily take an old style BMX just the one below over any of the new ones :smile:

    as for Road bikes pass, not my bag apart from the one i thrash to and from work.
     

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    Good post.

    And I'll see your Sachs Huret and raise you Benelux xx(
     
  12. raleighnut

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    Or Simplex. :ohmy: :B) :cry: :cursing:
     
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    The one I had would end up with the chain 'riding' with the sideplates on top of the next sprocket if you missed a shift, the 105 I replaced it with was 'index capable' which meant that the top jockey wheel had enough 'float' side to side to prevent this happening (even though I used friction levers)
     
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    http://www.velominati.com/2012/05/in-memoriam-the-funny-bike/
     
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