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Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Thank you Carl, I’m enjoying Zwift again and I’ve heard you’ve become bit of a power monster :ohmy:
Don't believe everything you hear ... I've got lucky in a few sprints ;)

Really pleased to have you back, and the C boys will love riding with you :okay:
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Reminder of Tour De Spitters schedule:

Stage 1 (Race) - Tuesday 8th March 19:50 UK time
Royal Pump Room 8, Yorkshire (1 lap) https://zwiftinsider.com/route/royal-pump-room-8/

Stage 2 (Race) - Tuesday 15th March 19:50 UK time
Two Village Loop, Makuiri Islands (3 laps) https://zwiftinsider.com/route/two-village-loop/

Stage 3 (Race) - Tuesday 22nd March 19:50 UK time
Out and Back Again, Watopia (1 lap) https://zwiftinsider.com/route/out-and-back-again/

Stage 4 (Race) - Tuesday 29th March 19:50 UK time
Mountain 8, Watopia (1 lap) https://zwiftinsider.com/route/mountain-8/

Stage 5 (ITT) - time TBC or do when it suits you as it's TT bikes only
R.G.V, France https://zwiftinsider.com/route/rgv/
 

steverob

Guru
Location
Buckinghamshire
As a note for the iTT, if anyone wants to ride it on an empty France course but doesn't know who they can add to their meetup to make this work (without awkwardly reaching out to one of the others and saying "ignore this meetup that I've just invited you to") we do have a secondary account that we use on the CCC side just for this sort of thing.

It's called "Cyclechat Bot" and if you follow it on Zwift, it'll follow you back eventually (if it doesn't happen within a day, might be best to PM me to remind me to check the account) and from then on, you can invite it to as many meetups as you need to fulfil the criteria.
 

alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
Don't be afraid to get upgraded to B, though. You'll improve vastly more by stretching yourself with the Bs (maybe in mixed-cat races?) than by sitting comfortably with the Cs and sprinting!

I realise it's inevitable at some point if I keep improving. It was just annoying in my first ever C race to come in 8th place, 6s behind the leader and then be told by ZwiftPower that I was too powerful for that category and the top 7 weren't. Load of old shite IMHO. It shouldn't all be based on W/kg over 20 minutes or any other single data point. (by the way I was literally 3.21 W/kg at 95% 20 minutes and fully maxed out - more fully than I'd ever been before).
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
As a note for the iTT, if anyone wants to ride it on an empty France course but doesn't know who they can add to their meetup to make this work (without awkwardly reaching out to one of the others and saying "ignore this meetup that I've just invited you to") we do have a secondary account that we use on the CCC side just for this sort of thing.

It's called "Cyclechat Bot" and if you follow it on Zwift, it'll follow you back eventually (if it doesn't happen within a day, might be best to PM me to remind me to check the account) and from then on, you can invite it to as many meetups as you need to fulfil the criteria.
Thanks - great idea. Also potentially useful for watching or DS-ing ZRL races via fan view if the world the stage is being raced on isn't currently in the schedule
 

steverob

Guru
Location
Buckinghamshire
ZRL watching is actually what I originally created it for - the ability to do the meetups was an added bonus on top of that.

Of course it only works when I remember to create the meetups for each round - one week I ended up sending out the invite at about 7:40pm when our DS mentioned in chat that they hadn't received it yet... (oops!)
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
I realise it's inevitable at some point if I keep improving. It was just annoying in my first ever C race to come in 8th place, 6s behind the leader and then be told by ZwiftPower that I was too powerful for that category and the top 7 weren't. Load of old shite IMHO. It shouldn't all be based on W/kg over 20 minutes or any other single data point. (by the way I was literally 3.21 W/kg at 95% 20 minutes and fully maxed out - more fully than I'd ever been before).
Yeah it is a bit silly to base categories on just one data point I agree. I believe the new minimum category enforcement system Zwift are trialling does use more power data points than just 20 minute power, which is why some people are seeing themselves assigned to higher categories in those races.

To be fair, your category has gone back to C now you've done a few more longer events. It's always been the case with the current category system that if you're towards the top of your category, those 20-ish minute Crit races are best avoided if you don't want to get upgraded!
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Yeah it is a bit silly to base categories on just one data point I agree. I believe the new minimum category enforcement system Zwift are trialling does use more power data points than just 20 minute power, which is why some people are seeing themselves assigned to higher categories in those races.

To be fair, your category has gone back to C now you've done a few more longer events. It's always been the case with the current category system that if you're towards the top of your category, those 20-ish minute Crit races are best avoided if you don't want to get upgraded!
Or not avoided if you're feeling OK that day :biggrin:

My first B crit race. 50 starters. Not too shabby

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bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Or not avoided if you're feeling OK that day :biggrin:

My first B crit race. 50 starters. Not too shabby

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Nice result Carl :okay:

Nothing wrong with those short Crit races of course - and no offence but as you're not right at the top of Cat B with regards the 20min power measure no worries for you (I'd also be safe with them myself!)

That said, you actually managed to come 6th and still somehow only do Cat C 20 min power numbers anyway - impressive in it's own way!
 

alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
To be fair, your category has gone back to C now you've done a few more longer events. It's always been the case with the current category system that if you're towards the top of your category, those 20-ish minute Crit races are best avoided if you don't want to get upgraded!

Yeah it was unfortunate to learn that on my first race (which expires in about 4 days :laugh:).
There's still a lot of C riders who can kick my arse though - particularly over the longer distances.
 
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